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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'd also point out that Regula van Hydrus is shown to use some manner of teleportation during the Warring Triad quest chain. So there's direct evidence of a Pureblood Garlean making use of teleportation - though I'm inclined to believe he simply attuned himself to the magitek gate overlooking The Gration in Ayzs Lla.
    Could be that Hydrus simply had his armour outfitted with some sort of magitek field generator that could duplicate aetheryte teleportation effects. I'm not sure Pureblood Garleans can attune themselves to an Aetheryte like other Hydaelyneans can.
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    Based on how there's a cable linking the transporter gate to the destination, we can probably guess at how they work. Garleans can't manipulate aether but they are still comprised of aether like everyone else. If a Pure-Blooded Garlean were to try to use an aetheryte, best case scenario is nothing would happen, worst case is their aether would dissipate and they'd die. I posit that the transporter gates work by breaking you down into aether and then transferring you safely through the cable, then reconstructing you on the other side.

    Regula's teleportation was likely a wireless version, connected via a pair of beacons within his armor and the Gration.
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    Also there are Magitek Transporters in Dzemael Darkhold, along with various "stand in this to activate" magitek devices, for some reason. (Seriously, why the heck would anyone build a device that only activates when someone stands in it and twiddles their thumbs for a minute?)

    I don't recall if the transporters have wires leading out of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YianKutku View Post
    Seriously, why the heck would anyone build a device that only activates when someone stands in it and twiddles their thumbs for a minute?
    Note that most of those devices happen to be in rather hazardous areas. Off the top of my head, only the first and last sections of the dungeon have them. In the first section, we see those devices everywhere, apparently being used to trap the ahriman flying around in those tunnels, and none of them were inside the purple protection crystals. In the third section, we have two blue circles at once, both smack dab in the range of giant exploding crystals.

    So maybe those devices weren't actually the main way to open the gates, just really stupid traps that somehow allow intruders to unlock the gates if they survive long enough.
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    From what I understand, the reason why there is magitek transporters in Dzemael Darkhold (and Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak) is that those dungeons were originally from FFXIV 1.0 and their pre-Calamity versions the Garleans (specifically, Nael's VIIth Legion) had actually infiltrated them and set those devices up to allow easier transport through them. Needless to say, the Garleans no longer occupy those areas by the time of ARR, but their equipment still remains.

    One of the loremasters would be able to give further information on this though (including why the Garleans were infiltrating those dungeons in the first place).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Oh it is definitely not only theoretically possible for someone else to teleport a pure-born Garlean, technically we've already seen this happen at least once. It was presumably how Livia and her unit of shock troops were able to enter the Waking Sands and raid the place without being seen by the Immortal Flames guards patrolling Vesper Bay outside. Lahabrea teleported them directly inside - in his Thancred-suit he would not have raised suspicion and probably just waltzed right in through the front door past Tataru, and once inside thus could freely teleport Livia and her martial thugs inside before anyone knew what was happening.

    Presumably the previously mentioned Garlean magitek transporter rings probably work in a similar manner to the spell by breaking down the body's aether and sending over wires to the destination gate.

    But this is all speculation so take from that what you will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Oh it is definitely not only theoretically possible for someone else to teleport a pure-born Garlean, technically we've already seen this happen at least once. It was presumably how Livia and her unit of shock troops were able to enter the Waking Sands and raid the place without being seen by the Immortal Flames guards patrolling Vesper Bay outside. Lahabrea teleported them directly inside - in his Thancred-suit he would not have raised suspicion and probably just waltzed right in through the front door past Tataru, and once inside thus could freely teleport Livia and her martial thugs inside before anyone knew what was happening.
    I thought they flew directly in. It's been a really long time since I watched the 2.0 story, though, but I'd always imagined that they dropped directly into Vesper Bay with a small airship, and left the same way. Otherwise it raises the question of how they got their Scion prisoners out of there as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
    I thought they flew directly in. It's been a really long time since I watched the 2.0 story, though, but I'd always imagined that they dropped directly into Vesper Bay with a small airship, and left the same way. Otherwise it raises the question of how they got their Scion prisoners out of there as well.
    Not really. Lahabrea is (er, was) incredibly powerful and probably used a quick trip to the Ascian dimension to get people in and out with as little "mess" as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
    I thought they flew directly in. It's been a really long time since I watched the 2.0 story, though, but I'd always imagined that they dropped directly into Vesper Bay with a small airship, and left the same way. Otherwise it raises the question of how they got their Scion prisoners out of there as well.
    When the player first arrives outside the Waking Sands in that scene a crowd of villagers is clustered around outside who state they've all heard screaming coming from inside but saw nothing else. A Garlean airship, even a small one, would kind of be noticeable if it landed in the middle of a major port town like Vesper Bay (to say nothing of an Immortal Flames encampment literally next door to the place would have immediately rushed to it's defense if that had been the case.) But all that was known was suddenly there was a commotion inside that was heard by everyone outside, but no one knew exactly what was happening:

    Quote Originally Posted by ARR main scenario quest 'All Good Things'
    Disquieted Villager (outside the Waking Sands): "You hear that commotion just now? What in the seven hells were they doin' in there? Wrestlin' a peiste!? You look like the adventurin' type. Mind taking a quick look?"
    Frightened Villager: "...Was that screaming I heard? I'm not sure I want to know..."
    In fact, even why the Garleans were even there (to try and capture the player's character) clued Minfilia in that this was no ordinary raid - that they had infiltrated the place magically instead of by mundane means (Livia naturally waves her thought aside). So Lahabrea teleporting the Garleans in and then out with their Scion prisoners is the only logical way that they could have infiltrated the Waking Sands without anyone outside noticing.
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    To clarify: Lahabrea teleported the Garlean strike team directly into the Waking Sands, without any sort of aetherial beacon to send them to? It actually makes me wonder why he needed to possess Thancred for this, unless that was solely to find out the exact location of the Waking Sands, which seems unlikely because there were a lot of people who already knew where the Scions were, and he could probably have possessed some other, lower-profile Scion adventurer Or was it that he needed to possess Thancred in order to bypass whatever security measures they had on the Waking Sands?
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