SE better do something or the game will drop dead

[Douten]

I agree a test server for the public would be the best approach to iron bugs out and for players to see if their concerns are addressed. However as they are currently rebuilding the server and engine we most likely won't see it until 2.0 (I have hope that it will come). So for now we will just have to live with this sytem.

I think you are missing the point Coglin is trying to make with trying out the content first. I think the scenario is first the battle system didn't please the mass so they wanted change. The Dev's then made changes based on input. So now he's saying that we should test out this content first to see if it addresses the concerns before writing them up again. So his approach is more along the line of:

1. Voice concern.
2. See Patch Note.
3. Try Content.
4. Voice moar concern.

Of course this doesn't mean it's not a good idea to voice concern between 2 & 3. Of course the concern should be valid. In this case the Dev's are supposedly following the concerns in step 1. I then believe we should at least try the content before getting too worked up about it and telling them the step they took to address is bad. If we simply follow the voice concern > patch note > voice concern > fix patch note > voice concern, etc. I'm afraid we will not have anything tangible to try. Text on patch note and actual game play might be very different since there is a lot of things to factor in that we might not see just by reading.

To derail a bit. It could be argued that we are then paying to be the gunnies pig, but I would say what is wrong with that? Currently implementation of a test server isn't feasible so the 'testing' being pushed to live server isn't inconceivable. Most update/patches system are like this anyways right? Even if the Dev's feel it's perfect the problems won't really show up until the public get a go at it.