SE better do something or the game will drop dead

[Lucifer]

I'm not involved in this thread and people post the same tripe the always do.

That round table must be attractive.

[KaiKatzchen]

the to speak of is opinionated and does not say any at all. yes, a few new chars are coming in, but not enough to maintain the player numbers where they are. there is not enough to speak of when the overall numbers continue to fall.

i understand your point. too bad it's still wrong.

/facepalm

If someone says there are no new people coming in, and there ARE people coming in how am I wrong? They never started how many, they never said there weren't enough coming in for it to be game saving. They said there were no new people coming in.

This is in fact wrong, therefore I am not wrong in my statements. If they wish to restate and say there are not enough people coming in to make a difference, or not enough to save it... etc, then yes they may be correct. But to flat out say there are no new people is not a correct statement.

You can dress it up any way you like, and I am not saying YOUR statement is incorrect. But it does not change the fact that the way they worded their post was incorrect.

[Renshi]

Man, it really is true:

How People Discuss about A

Start discussion with A;
Keep discussing about B;
Discuss about C;
End discussion with D.

If you wanna talk about that, talk about the issue of players not enough to keep the game alive in another occasion =)

[knite23]

that pretty much sums up this whole post

....i never said i was awesome in that post i stated facts and threw in some comical comments O.o.... sad thing is i could argue the QQ'ers side just as well as the SE Knights. when you do a lot of debating you learn not to use your words so loosely it makes your argument easy to discredit. i honestly thought though xoo post where the most competent out of all the QQer's but still not on the level as the SE Knights.

lol and you sound mad bro...... head most of exploded since you have no other remarks

[knite23]

TL;DR
a term originating from forums and text messages in respons to ebscenely long forum posts or texts. means 'too long, didn't read.' the original use has died out however, and it is now only ever used by argumentative cunts who have been outargued and don't want to admit it. as such, it's current meaning (which would be the corrupted phrase) is 'can't think of an argument, gonna pretend i couldn't be arsed to read it.'

man 1: ...so yeah. learn your stuff, man, you're making yourself look stupid

man (?) 2: (thinks) shit, that's a damn good argument! i got nothin'! unless...

(types) tl;dr

Lmao just by posting this i just roasted 2 people

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...&defid=5067929

Karma 6 vs World 0

[Coldfire]

TL;DR
a term originating from forums and text messages in respons to ebscenely long forum posts or texts. means 'too long, didn't read.' the original use has died out however, and it is now only ever used by argumentative cunts who have been outargued and don't want to admit it. as such, it's current meaning (which would be the corrupted phrase) is 'can't think of an argument, gonna pretend i couldn't be arsed to read it.'

man 1: ...so yeah. learn your stuff, man, you're making yourself look stupid

man (?) 2: (thinks) shit, that's a damn good argument! i got nothin'! unless...

(types) tl;dr

Lmao just by posting this i just roasted 2 people

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...&defid=5067929

Karma 6 vs World 0

The world does not resolute around you. You're not the master of abbreviations. You're just flaming in a very very boring way.

My TL;DR was exactly because of that. I don't think anyone wants to waste his time reading a raging kid's wall of text. The first sentence completely summed up your intentions and reading any further was meaningless since your not trying to prove a point but only trying to troll someone.

[knite23]

The world does not resolute around you. You're not the master of abbreviations. You're just flaming in a very very boring way.

My TL;DR was exactly because of that. I don't think anyone wants to waste his time reading a raging kid's wall of text. The first sentence completely summed up your intentions and reading any further was meaningless since your not trying to prove a point but only trying to troll someone.

lol im a raging kid because your not smart enough to argue your own opinion..instead type Tl;dr because that makes you kool or maybe reading....nevermind...watever floats your boat kid i can troll because i know what i'm talking about and my trolling keeps the ignorant away (as you can tell it worked) but a lot less uneducated opinions saves me a lot of time. funny most of my responses have been about post with opinions but yours..........just talk about me lol i got a fan yay but seriously if your not posting an opinion i got nothing to say to you deuces

Fyi i linked you the definition of your abbreviations lol i come with facts you come with rebuttals that have no facts or at least witty or funny lighten up bro.....y so mad?

[djjdiss]

Nothing magic about the amount of work they're putting into this overhaul.

The way some people talk, it sounds as if they feel 2.0 is going to change EVERYTHING and magically become a new game. That's what I was referring to. Their efforts are commendable to say the least though, I agree.

What about the actual dungeons and non instanced stronghold included with the new landscape. Then there's those new towns which are sure to have new quests. And that Crystal Tower they're apparently working on.

Alot of that won't be coming until after 2.0 or will be introduced to the old world before 2.0 and then just brought over. I wish I could find the stinkin post where Yoshi talked about priorities and what not. I think it was one of the Dev letters. Either way 2.0 won't be too dissimilar from the current world before it launches.

Those crowns and tools are the best of their kind. I'd hardly consider them to be of little reward.

Yes that's part of the "little" reward I was referring to. Out of all the Achievements there are, only those few give rewarding substance of value. Even then, if you're not a gatherer, they are of NO VALUE. So truthfully they're only rewarding fro people that want to or can actually use them.

Well, because it's not going to be there anymore. May as well see it before it goes away forever.

ya but comon. You and I both know the landscape is about as drab and boring as MMO's come. There's really only a few caves and dungeons that have a unique look and color pallet to them.

That's really more of an opinion than anything.

You're absolutely right in that regard. It is opinionated, but it's the opinion of the general consensus, which kind of adds validity.

How do you know this? I haven't heard much word on the actual skills available for jobs, so if you have a link I'd love to see it.

Sorry, I'm the lazy type that hates finding links XD I know it's around here somewhere. Yoshi gave us a projected skills list for the jobs. Most of what was in that list seemed like recycled content, while only a handful seemed to have been freshly programed skills. If I find where it's at i'll link it here in an edit.

Unrealistic thinking can go both ways. This game won't die. It might not be a super popular game. But it won't die. Not for quite a while at least.

Ya I never said it would die, SE is too big to let that happen any time soon. I was referring to succeeding. It's tough to project financial success for an MMO that's had such a terrible start like this one has. History dictates that the first fiscal year is the most important one for an mmo. So while the game may stagger along, I find it tough to say that it's going to rise from the ashes like a phoenix and pull a 180 financially because that would require a miracle at this point.

That's why I said to not think of 2.0 as magical. Perhaps I should have said Miracle instead. 2.0 is in no way a miracle, but rather a step in the right direction. It's within the first 6 months of 2013 that miracles need to start happening if SE wants any shot at the financial gains they're expecting from this game.

[darkstarpoet1]

The world does not resolute around you. You're not the master of abbreviations. You're just flaming in a very very boring way.

My TL;DR was exactly because of that. I don't think anyone wants to waste his time reading a raging kid's wall of text. The first sentence completely summed up your intentions and reading any further was meaningless since your not trying to prove a point but only trying to troll someone.

just let the child keep talking. mommy will take away his bottle and get back on her computer soon. i just went ahead and put the child on ignore because i don't have time for them. i don't like battle of wits with unarmed opponents so i stopped responding to them.

[djjdiss]

WAY TO GO KaiKatzchen You just proved my point. Thanks for posting that.

Below are the main content additions planned for [SIZE="7"]AFTER[/SIZE] version 2.0.

Learn to frickin read.

Most of that isn't coming in 2.0 but in the long months after it. [SIZE="5"]NOT WITH IT[/SIZE]

Get your narrow minded head out of the clouds