SE better do something or the game will drop dead

[Bucho]

What i want to know is why people think, finishing all the achivements and job classes is part of "Finishing the game", and if not doing so give someone no right to comment on the boards.

What does that have to do with a MMO ROLE PLAYING GAME.

The main appeal of any RPG is the storyline.
Collecting every single item possible, or playing the extra 200 hours of extra content leveling a job class you dont care for IS NOT finishing the game content. You people need to wake up and realize that a single boss battle != content, 10-15 quests leading upto an epic boss battle, with unpredictible story content is a "boss battle" and is the only thing ever worthy of the title.

Ive said it before and ill say it again, this game is fine how it is, maybe a few kinks, but its mainly its just boring.

Just give a crapload more quests so people have things to do. Honestly i played LOTRO for a bit when i took a break from here and they have a very cool system for creating FFXI's "assault" type missions, Unlimited runs per day, with a single exp bonus per day for completion, and currency reward system for other cool (mostly useless but fun none the less) items. [Edit] that scaled number of enemies, based on how many people in party when you started the instance, and level of enemies based on the highest lvl member of your party, as well as adding the option to set the levels higher if you wanted to.

[KaiKatzchen]

What i want to know is why people think, finishing all the achivements and job classes is part of "Finishing the game", and if not doing so give someone no right to comment on the boards.

Another person twisting words to make it sound how they want to sound. Guess you didn't see the other post where I already clarified this (post 71), so I won't bother repeating myself. It's there is you want to read it.

...and no, getting all your classes to 50 and finishing all achievements does not mean you have completed the game since MMO's are ever changing... but if people did finish all the content (i.e. all quests all jobs to 50, all dungeons done, all primals complete etc) that was available to them before new content was released at least they would have a reason to complain versus others who have done a low percentage of the game and complain they have nothing to do.

While the game is good and tides me over, it is not fine the way it is... if it was fine the way it is then we wouldn't have SE building a whole new game on a whole new server, giving us something to do, until relaunch and hyping us for 2.0. Even SE admitted this game was a mess.

And this is coming from a person who has defended (and will continue too) this game since closed beta.

[Biggs]

Another person twisting words to make it sound how they want to sound. Guess you didn't see the other post where I already clarified this (post 71), so I won't bother repeating myself. It's there is you want to read it.

...and no, getting all your classes to 50 and finishing all achievements does not mean you have completed the game since MMO's are ever changing... but if people did finish all the content (i.e. all quests all jobs to 50, all dungeons done, all primals complete etc) that was available to them before new content was released at least they would have a reason to complain versus others who have done a low percentage of the game and complain they have nothing to do.

While the game is good and tides me over, it is not fine the way it is... if it was fine the way it is then we wouldn't have SE building a whole new game on a whole new server, giving us something to do, until relaunch and hyping us for 2.0. Even SE admitted this game was a mess.

And this is coming from a person who has defended (and will continue too) this game since closed beta.

Now please don't read this as me jumping all over your case here, because honestly I see both sides of this argument. I used to have a character with multiple 50 jobs and a craft or 2 near 50 back around the middle of last year. When they announced the 2.0 relaunch I deleted it and stopped playing for a bit. I pay and play now on my current character, but only a few times a week. My fear was that I would become one of the many people I see now with all their combat jobs at 50 and several crafting jobs at 50 as well. I often wonder what people like them do now when they log on besides the 2 primal fights or trying to cram another piece of materia into an already crowded piece of equipment. I think that, regardless of how many "new" things come out in the next few patches, it is still going to be some time before we get to a level of content in this game that exceeds anyones ability to master outside of a month or 2 of work. I mean, as it is now, with the right help, you could easily complete all there is to do in this game in a month or 2, with the exception of crafting. Hell, since SE isn't really concerned with banning botting accounts right now (and i understand why, believe me) you could cheat a little and probably knock out most of your crafting jobs in that time too. Or at least get them all to the high 30's.

The fact is, we are in a holding pattern until 2.0 drops. While I think there will be loads of new things to see or do once the new client finally drops, I think it will be sometime yet (2014 maybe) before this game gets to the same level FFXI was content wise after it had been released for the same amount of time. I think that anyone that has spent more than a few hours on it can see that being in a huge hurry to level everything right now is only going to mean that they will eventually run out of things to do.

Also, I think when people speak of adding more content to the game, what they really want is more jobs and an increased level cap. And we are still a long way out from that happening. I understand that we will get "jobs" next patch but, you won't be leveling them seperatly so what I am really refering to is more classes. I have been waiting for them to add muskateer to the game since the first time i stepped into the guild in LL. Also, with increased level caps ussually comes higher level instances and dungeons. We can only have 6 combat jobs for so long here before things start to feel stagnant to people. I understand WHY we are waiting, but that doesn't make it any easier :P Just my 2 cents.