SE better do something or the game will drop dead

[Renshi]

What are you guys discussing now, for what 2.0 will be?
2.0 will be 2.0. It'll have a lot of changes to the game and what else. We know what it'll have as content and things to do, so please put a sock on it =)

[djjdiss]

We know what it'll have as content and things to do, so please put a sock on it =)

Well you might know, but some of these guys seem to have an understanding of patch 2.0 that's about as clear as mud.

I guess we can thank yoshi for confusing people by referring to the future of FFXIV as a patch number.

This implies that everything happens in 2.0, which is FAR from the truth.

2.0 only marks the starting point that FFXIV will begin it's first year of content heavy updates.

Hell most of the exciting stuff that yoshi makes us droll over isn't arriving until damn near 2014.

[Renshi]

Yep. Everything STARTS from 2.0. And since you seem like the literal one, by Everything I mean all that has been announced AFTER 2.0. If we'll have something before 2.0 it'll be told to us, so hold on your seat =)
New Final Fantasy XIV will see new content, and we really don't know what we'll be able to touch, so don't say things like not seeing content until 2014, you're making it a truth statement which is riskly bashable.

2.0 will see what 2.0 will have, and if there's something that we can do to discover its content is: Waiting.

[djjdiss]

Well I'm glad you have a grasp on it, but you're preaching to the quire.

Go get that through to the other posters who think AFTER means IN or BEFORE.

I'm not one of them...

[Coglin]

Djjdiss, you seem to under some misconception that SE claimed they wre adding new abilities, when they did specifically say they were reforming the base class plateform as a basis for jobs to come. Not to mention you have made post after post after post of you crying like a school girl with a skent knee, about abilities that are not even in the game yet.

You got 24 post and everyone of them is you crying? why are you still here? Are you a masochist or a hipocrit?

[djjdiss]

Djjdiss, you seem to under some misconception that SE claimed they wre adding new abilities, when they did specifically say they were reforming the base class plateform as a basis for jobs to come. Not to mention you have made post after post after post of you crying like a school girl with a skent knee, about abilities that are not even in the game yet.

I'd love to see the link with those specific words in them. There was no mention, that I recall, about them dividing our current skills up amongst other classes/jobs.

EVEN IF THAT'S TRUE, what's the point in giving us the job system if it needs to be filled with already implemented skills and mechanics? Why not wait until you had enough new skills made to make jobs feel truly fresh and new?

This just sounds like more of your fan derived rationalizations and acceptance of TERRIBLE game dev practices.

You got 24 post

Oh now were dick measuring? I'm sorry i'm not quite the spotlight hog you are, but when I post it's b/c something concerns me. There's alot to be concerned about right now, but I guess you wouldn't know since you're too busy eating up any worthless scraps SE throws at you.

I'm sorry but you're a settler, and i'm a forward thinker. We'll never see eye to eye so let's just agree to disagree.

[Coglin]

I could agree to disagree if you could post one link to support you inacurate information you post. If you didn't twist and omit facts to make things suit your point, then go on to insult, and bash others with profanities if they do it back.

Bashing an idea as if it already was implimented is not forward thinking. Allowing oneself to experience something before judging it, is not called settling. The fact that you would even present that as a point for your arguement is laughable at best.

[djjdiss]

I could agree to disagree if you could post one link to support you inacurate information you post. If you didn't twist and omit facts to make things suit your point, then go on to insult, and bash others with profanities if they do it back.

Bashing an idea as if it already was implimented is not forward thinking. Allowing oneself to experience something before judging it, is not called settling. The fact that you would even present that as a point for your arguement is laughable at best.

Inaccurate? How so? I'm quoting directly from Yoshis projected list of skills in my post. Go look at homeboys green wall of text that was a reply to my comment.

Bashing an idea as if it already was implimented is not forward thinking

There you go again ad-libing. I question ideas presented to me, which is ABSOLUTELY something a forward thinker does. I don't settle for the solutions presented to me if they aren't optimal.

Allowing oneself to experience something before judging it, is not called settling.

No it isn't, but going along dumb and happy isn't very progressive or efficient either now is it?

Since when was the in-game mechanic of a skill in this game TOTALLY different from what the tool-tip described it as?

Every time they post projected skills, the description of it is almost always spot on with how it ends up functioning real time.

So why would I assume that what they posted as a description is completely wrong, and that I should just wait to see how it turns out? It's not like those skills have complex mechanics behind them lol. We already witnessed two of them in action on youtube, one of which you could clearly tell was a storms path replacement.

So stop acting like every skills description on there is so vague or bound to be changed completely, that we have to wait until we can use them before making suggestions or having doubts.

I'd rather post concerns early and have changes done or deadlines pushed forward to allow them enough time to create something unique and fresh that doesn't feel like we've been there and done that before.

[Coglin]

Inaccurate? How so? I'm quoting directly from Yoshis projected list of skills in my post. Go look at homeboys green wall of text that was a reply to my comment.

No you don't. Every post you made hade a "I can't find the link but I am certain Yoshi said" line in it.

There you go again ad-libing. I question ideas presented to me, which is ABSOLUTELY something a forward thinker does. I don't settle for the solutions presented to me if they aren't optimal.

lol talk about ad-libing, your redifining terms. Foward thinking is not participating in the discussion about the changes in classes untill after they happen. Then you start posting complaining about it after hundreds of threads of discussion influenced the changes, and you chose not to participate in them....Your right, thats some dang fine forward thinking.

No it isn't, but going along dumb and happy isn't very progressive or efficient either now is it?

Exactly. which must have been what you did, because I do not see one post on the issue you hade before the recent changes that you have done nothing but complain about.

Since when was the in-game mechanic of a skill in this game TOTALLY different from what the tool-tip described it as?

Seriously? there have been several....We had 23 threads of discussion over this over months and months of time untill they fixed alot of the tool-tips.

Every time they post projected skills, the description of it is almost always spot on with how it ends up functioning real time.

Everytime? You mean 1.20 ...

So why would I assume that what they posted as a description is completely wrong, and that I should just wait to see how it turns out? It's not like those skills have complex mechanics behind them lol. We already witnessed two of them in action on youtube, one of which you could clearly tell was a storms path replacement.

WTF are you talking about, we already have that ability. As far as tool tips go, we have already had issues with tons of incorrect tool tips. please, try to keep up.

So stop acting like every skills description on there is so vague or bound to be changed completely, that we have to wait until we can use them before making suggestions or having doubts.

Why should I? i think its well with in reason to suggest its logical to use an ability before you cmplain about it as if your an old hand with it. It an amaing logic you have there to claim your idea of crying about it before you try it is more logical then trying it before condeming it.

I'd rather post concerns early and have changes done or deadlines pushed forward to allow them enough time to create something unique and fresh that doesn't feel like we've been there and done that before.

That migh be acceptable if you actually offered a better refinement or idea for an ability, or a better ability. thats not the case, all you do is cry and nit pick about something you pretend you know more about then the rest of us. It one thing to say "hey, I have a better idea" and present it, all you do is complain and moan about all there ideas, and bash anyone that dislikes your complaints or disagrees with them.

Because I know how much you love green.

[djjdiss]

Good i'm glad you found the official link for the list I copied. Nicely done, I bet it was tough for you XD

Foward thinking is not participating in the discussion about the changes in classes until after they happen

Ah so it's not correct unless it's YOUR interpretation of the word. GOT IT, i'll remember that...lulz

"Forward-thinking" is used primarily in business circles to describe a person or company who is seen as "visionary." In short, someone who is forward-thinking is thinking progressively and possesses the ability to look beyond the "now" and formulate strategies for future success. They are constantly asking "what's next?"

Clear enough for you dickhead? I don't live in the present, I live in tomorrow. You live day by day and wait to see what the next day brings before you make your next decision. That's our difference. So STFU and stop dry humping that dead horse already. Since we don't have a test server to go off of, these shitty projection notes are all we get, so I work with what i'm given.


Exactly. which must have been what you did, because I do not see one post on the issue you hade before the recent changes that you have done nothing but complain about.

OOO I just love the assumptions you draw from reading this accounts history about me as a person. Keep up the shallow-minded perception, it suits you oh so well. For a person who likes to think he's well informed, you certainly don't fathom more than a handful of variables do you?

Seriously? there have been several....We had 23 threads of discussion over this over months and months of time untill they fixed alot of the tool-tips.

I'm not referring to something the old dev team made and yoshi getting bitched at to fix it, i'm talking about 1.20 onward. Anything Yoshi has described has been damn accurate to the letter so far, so why would that change suddenly? It sounds like you have more doubt about him then I do..

Everytime? You mean 1.20 ...

That and those aforementioned tool-tip changes you talked about lol. Besides, those projected skills were posted on multiple occasions and each time there was 0% difference in the description. No umbrella effect or conjecture whatsoever.

WTF are you talking about, we already have that ability. As far as tool tips go, we have already had issues with tons of incorrect tool tips. please, try to keep up.

I'd hardly consider Whirlwind what Storms Path was. Tooltip isn't even the same. See above in regards to tooltips XD

Why should I? i think its well with in reason to suggest its logical to use an ability before you cmplain about it as if your an old hand with it. It an amaing logic you have there to claim your idea of crying about it before you try it is more logical then trying it before condeming it.

TMDR (too misspelled didn't read) lol Run along dumb and blind though, I could care less. I never condemned anything, I just said it wasn't new, Which I am right about.

That migh be acceptable if you actually offered a better refinement or idea for an ability, or a better ability. thats not the case because you're having to spend time explaining to my stupid ass why you feel the way you do, so you can't move on to more productive and constructive posting. It one thing to say "hey, I have a better idea" and present it, all i've seen you do on this account is post concerns about all their ideas, and bash anyone that acts like a royal turd about disagreeing with you.

Fixed your post, much better.

Since I think your posts should look the way they sound, i've chosen brown as your color.