Red Mage could use some help.

[Rasikko]

You people have not learned by now? Asking for buffs is the same as asking for a nerf. Keep yourselves under the radar, you don't know how good you got it.

[HaroldSaxon]

You people have not learned by now? Asking for buffs is the same as asking for a nerf. Keep yourselves under the radar, you don't know how good you got it.

Tell that to Ranged DPS in 3.x

[EllieShadeflare]

in the end its all about you and what you do with the cls you choose by yourself... meta and pf-lockouts are a construct which we built ourselves just to be frustrated in the end - its us not the devs to blame for this situation.

Honestly, it's meta worship by players who don't even touch Savage or Ultimate that causes so much toxicity, and then those players start swarming the forums complaining that those jobs are too weak and yelling at people when reality disagrees with them.

So what if a job isn't in the meta? All it means is that the job isn't the most optimal at defeating an encounter in the fastest time, that's all. However, this doesn't mean it's baaaaad, just not the best. This doesn't mean "stop asking for balance changes or buffs" this simply means "STOP BARRING PEOPLE FROM YOUR PARTIES BASED ON CLASS, YOU JERKS."

Players need to leave the meta for the raiders and just let people play what they want. This is the same toxicity that hurts MOBAs, and it's a shame it also hurts FFXIV.

[Zytoryu]

in the end its all about you and what you do with the cls you choose by yourself... meta and pf-lockouts are a construct which we built ourselves just to be frustrated in the end - its us not the devs to blame for this situation.

And what I and many people in this thread want is to be able to play RedMage and have it be balanced just like every other goddamn job in this game. Yes PF is full of idiots who think meta is the only way to play, but its much easier for the Dev's to simply press some keys and change a few values instead of them or us trying to change the minds of every foolish person to host a PF restricted to only meta outside of places where meta actually matters. We're here in this Thread hoping that the Dev's will do their jobs as a developers and change something that is straight up making this game feel more like a chore than an actual game.

And don't you tell me to just unsub. I love this game to death, I'm not just gonna call it quits without at least trying to make changes happen.

[Lina_Slayer]

And what I and many people in this thread want is to be able to play RedMage and have it be balanced just like every other goddamn job in this game. Yes PF is full of idiots who think meta is the only way to play, but its much easier for the Dev's to simply press some keys and change a few values instead of them or us trying to change the minds of every foolish person to host a PF restricted to only meta outside of places where meta actually matters. We're here in this Thread hoping that the Dev's will do their jobs as a developers and change something that is straight up making this game feel more like a chore than an actual game.

And don't you tell me to just unsub. I love this game to death, I'm not just gonna call it quits without at least trying to make changes happen.

Perfect post! People here act like everyone who complains about balance is some kind of Meta Nazi who goes for Omega Normal runs using BRD/NIN/MCH/DRG/PLD/WAR/SCH/AST and belittle everyone who don't, when in fact we just want our classes to be as strong as others and this forum and Reddit are the only places we have to try and reach the developers.

Right now BLM and SAM bring literally nothing to a group, while RDM is a progression only job, and it's not like it's a recent issue either, if they get finally fixed at 4.3 (and let's be honest they probably won't) it'll still be more than 7 months with those classes being super weak by comparison while there are 3 classes who are basically mandatory and for some reason never ever get nerfed.