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    Quote Originally Posted by Waemliht View Post
    The ease of rdm isn't just how easy it is to pick up and play. Their dps isn't really affected by mechanics because they don't have much a burst phase. You can't always avoid wasting bahamut time during downtime or mechanics. They also are consistently mobile compared to the other caster if you take advantage of both slide-casting and dualcast which loses you even less damage for each fight. If you want a dmg buff then kill dual cast rez and delete vercure. lol maybe they'll nerf potd afterwards. Ignore the guy that said smn doesn't need nerfing tho.
    If you think SMN is overpowered in respect to all DPS classes, then you should be ignored. Along with your questionable analysis of Vercure.
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    Except there is the fact that Bard which has way more utility does more damage as does machinist...
    So yes Red Mage needs some minor tweaks and slight buff.
    Using verraise as an arguement for a reason to not buff Red Mage does not work
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    lol, it was a mistake to have mentioned vercure or potd, it was just an afterthought. Vercure's really not worth casting if you're not prepping in downtime, avoid like plague. But if you really want these dmg buffs, I can't see any way but making them 1 rez a minute like everyone else.
    This isn't a smn thread but you can't deny that smn's > blm rn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waemliht View Post
    lol, it was a mistake to have mentioned vercure or potd, it was just an afterthought. Vercure's really not worth casting if you're not prepping in downtime, avoid like plague. But if you really want these dmg buffs, I can't see any way but making them 1 rez a minute like everyone else.
    This isn't a smn thread but you can't deny that smn's > blm rn.
    I'm with you on verraise. It needs a nerf also because it creates a divide between for-prog and post-prog, where anybody who wants to play RDM is only there for-prog, and if they want to stay efficient with the group they swap to SMN after prog.
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    @Harold if you read what i posted i said Bard has way more utility, i did not say way more damage.. Just the way i worded it i guess
    But the issue is jobs that have more utility and do more damage then those with less or no utility.
    In the case of blm which does not have utility and smn has a good amount.
    I am not saying Red Mage needs a huge buff as it is not horrid buuuut it should be doing at least on par damage with Bard and Machinist or slightly more
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    @Harold if you read what i posted i said Bard has way more utility, i did not say way more damage.. Just the way i worded it i guess
    But the issue is jobs that have more utility and do more damage then those with less or no utility.
    In the case of blm which does not have utility and smn has a good amount.
    I am not saying Red Mage needs a huge buff as it is not horrid buuuut it should be doing at least on par damage with Bard and Machinist or slightly more
    I mean, don't know how else you are supposed to take "Except there is the fact that Bard which has way more utility does more damage as does machinist...", but I word things badly too sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon View Post
    I mean, don't know how else you are supposed to take "Except there is the fact that Bard which has way more utility does more damage as does machinist...", but I word things badly too sometimes.
    "the fact that Bard, which has way more utility, does more damage. As does machinist."

    Is probably how the punctuation would be used to clarify.
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    embolden needs to buff both physical and magical damage on the target

    even if blm dont have real burst windows, just having that "enhanced" embolden, buffing healers burst or other casters in the comp, would be nice and make rdm a tick more valid, .. even if rdm is already valid like hell in prog
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    Last edited by Shiroe; 01-26-2018 at 02:57 AM.

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    I think many would agree with that.
    Atm embolden is "ok" but changes like you and others have mentioned would be beneficial
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    RDM was very strong at beginning and then scaled very bad with the tiers of gear. I bet it now will get even worse and RDM gets more and more behind.
    I hope SE will realize at some time that this is not fair and can not stay as it is.
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