BLM needs more damage

[EllieShadeflare]

Shadow fang is still a dps down to NIN even with the dot attached to it?

Oh, never mind. Forgot about the DoT. Disregard what I saaaaaaid.

[zuzu-bq]

What Blms need even more is: to chill...

there are more than enough threads f.e. the one with 59k+ hits and 680+ answers...
3+ new threads a day about the same, meanwhile well known, problem are just exhausting.

Bards didn't chill until they became OP and had a thread with over 300 pages while they were already a good job. Why should BLMs chill while they have been the worst caster to be picked since 3.2? :v

[Dualgunner]

Look, I know this gets said to much, often by people who don\\'t fully know this job, but this is kind of a fact right now that blm and sam need higher damage.

Our damage is good at the moment, but it\\'s equal to smn.

Less than* SMN.

There isn't a fight this tier (unless there's been a miracle comeback) where BLM beats SMN.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

What Blms need even more is: to chill...

Considering how relatively quick the response was to WHM, WAR and SMN when they bitched and moaned, I can't exactly fault people for continuously beating the dead horse. Look at Monk. It's been two years now and the devs have done precisely nothing solving their problems. In fact, they balanced Dragoon's BotD management despite no one even asking for that. So...

[Sylvain]

I hope they wont do the Umbral Heart debuff thing, not that Umbral Heart doesn't need love but... I (casually) play BLM to see the big numbers, not to buff, I go on my AST for that.

What I'd like,
Fester damage affected by haste in a way or another.
Enochian getting some use outside of granting you the buff at the beggining of the fight or after a long transition/stun
ThunderCloud being less clunky and random
Umbral Heart having more impact on our dps than 50% mana cost reduction.


Finally, although this one is a lot of wishfull thinking, someone once proposed to double Fester damage on main target only (so no buff during aoe situation), I have to say I'd love it. I'd shit my pants if I could reach a 100 000!! in 4.3 or 4.4.
Oh and a way to remove FireI from my main rotation. Maybe something that could greatly help BLM dps during high movement fight would be to make FireI instant cas under enochian. A bit like SMN with RuinII.

Also, some QoL change
Ley Line - Between the Line merged into a single spell
Fire IV Ice IV merged into another single spell

[Remedi]

Easy to make

Enochian could refresh AF/UI duration on use
Firestarter/thundercloud 30 secs
Enochian now changes your blizz1 and fire1 into B4 and F4 (honestly i would add T2 into T4 but maybe that would be too much)

I think ppl don't get what I mean when I say that B4 should add a magical dmg weakness , it's not a burst window phase but a real magic resist down just like slash/pierce/blount resist down, it would be the start of a possible synergy between caster which I'm afraid IS a reason why BLM isn't looking that great, there's no support in the game for casters and even casters are support for physical attackers (lol)

[Maero]

Another example: WHM before 4.0. The glaring balance issues were immediately identified, lengthy discussions were had (often VERY heated), and positive fixes followed. As long as the discourse is constructive, these threads are helpful.

I would agree with you 100%, as long as they do not turn into a insult fest and off topic, lol

[Sylvain]

Easy to make

Enochian could refresh AF/UI duration on use
Firestarter/thundercloud 30 secs
Enochian now changes your blizz1 and fire1 into B4 and F4 (honestly i would add T2 into T4 but maybe that would be too much)

There's a whole world between "easy to make" and "gonna happen"

[Remedi]

Fair enough but I guess that offering them quick solutions might make us more readable by them or at least I hope so

edit: objectively speaking the enochian interaction with spells is not something I see them doing but the other 2 changes shouldn't be that hard to implement
edit2: but the B4/F4 swapping like FC/IB could be something they could work too

[Komaru_Tatoro]

i mean if the dmg buff is not high enough to overcome a meta comp then why bring a blm. now if it overcomes it, why not bring 2 blm or more which equivalent to having like an extra half a player dps per blm.
as for melee lb3, if you dps that hard do you even need to melee lb3? somewhat melee lb3 is around about 30s of the raid dps???