Looks like people are heavily being distracted from the original point of this topic, so as a raider with high experience in all aspects of the game's difficulty let me please revert back to the OP's first comment and let's put this thread to bed since right now it's just pointless quibbling about analogies that make no sense.
Dungeons are honestly not something that the majority of the population care too much about regarding playing your class optimally. As long as you are doing your job and keeping hate as a tank then you should not experience any problems with the majority of the player-base unless they really are being jerks. If you are physically doing things you do NOT need to do, for example spamming flash when you already have tons of enmity, or not using your cooldowns appropriately and making it hard for the healer to keep you alive, or conversely focusing too much on doing DPS and not keeping hate; basically anything that would make people's lives harder than it need to be, then you should not be focused with any real warranted problems. Most people only have a problem when things are taking longer than they need to, especially in really old dungeons. When people do make a fuss, just ask them kindly to put up with it or leave. Most DPS will not bother leaving because of the incredibly long wait times to get into a new dungeon would be longer than suffering through "sub-optimal" tanking.
Now I'm not calling you a liar, but unless your server is heavily underpopulated and the hunt wasn't being zerged and for whatever reason the hunt wasn't being killed (does this ever happen?), I can't think of any reason to specifically pick up on this unless they were being elitist. Again, just find another group to go with and move on. Some people just like to troll for a sense of self-worth to basically say "Hey I'm better than you because I do this." Completely irrelevant and I would find it very hard to believe this happens very often.
If numbers during a raid are being referenced and you do not want to know about this, then yes you are well within your right to report people for this. Additionally if people are harassing you whilst directly referencing FFLOGS then again you are well within your right to report them. HOWEVER, and this is where my post starts to become a bit more against your current way of thinking, if they kick you but don't say why, you have no right to do anything. People are WELL within their rights to go and do searches on your current skill level and then decide if they want to play with you or not. People of a certain skill level in the game do not want to have to carry people and they do not want to have a terrible time when playing the game. Sometimes people kick people despite it being contradictive of their own skill level with hopes of better players carrying them, but regardless of the reason unless specifically being told about your logs and parses you do not have any right to complain about being kicked from a party for whatever reason. This is the party leader's discretion.
Real talk, you are not good enough to FARM Shinryu. Can you clear it? Sure you can, the fight is quite easy and doesn't require 100% effort from everyone. But what is a problem specifically for FARM parties is that other people have to work extra hard to make up for what you are not bringing to the table. This is why you are being kicked and not let into farm parties, simple as that really. If you don't want this attitude to continue work on looking up guides and seeing what you can do to improve your ability to play the game, this means using your enmity skills more intelligently so that you don't have to "overheal" in the sense of healers. Don't use enmity skills when you don't need to. Don't use shield oath when you are already top of the enmity list with no potential way of losing it. Use your enmity skills smartly so that you don't need to have "wasted" actions on lesser important actions. All of the former suggestions will give you more time to be able to do more with your time and therefore increase your overall DPS. DPS purely comes from playing optimally, not just from "dropping enmity/tanking skills". If you don't care about doing that then don't, but also don't expect players to let you play with them on the higher skilled content of the game.


Reply With Quote

