Tank dps harrasment

[RinnLanael]

So I ran with a friend yesterday who was running something to tell me my dps and he said after the clear that I was pulling 2,510 dps. According to logs unless I'm reading this wrong (which I very well may be) that should put me on the upper end of blue numbers and like 30-50 dps shy of the purple numbers (apparently colors = skill?). I don't see why I am being punished for having a single log of a fight that was put up without my permission (which btw was my freaking clear I found out looking back at the date of the log) that I have to deal with people bashing me for "low dps".

Hiding your logs is a good way to make sure you aren't judged on that, however maybe it's better that you unhide them and have someone upload your better parses? Be proud of the fact that you are actively doing better, people only care about the highest number. If you drill down into some of my earlier omega savage runs I've had grey runs. Improve, practise and better yourself.

Edit: Having logs hidden will make people assume you have something embarrassing to hide and you may be kicked in much the same way.

[Hannia]

Another thing, I NEVER said that I was not attempting to get better I only stated that I am tired of getting kicked out of or not even given a chance to do random casual content because of a bad log on a site that I do not use (and barely understand or have time to fool with). I am not a raider, I have no static, and the highest content I have time to do is Shinryu, the only time I get to play is on weekends because of my job and taking care of my daughter. When my job settles down at the start of 2018 I do plan on sitting down and figuring out stuff better because I will not be working Mon-Fri 12+ hrs a day then coming home to get my daughter from baby sitter and go home and cook dinner and get her ready for bed. As it is right now I am starting to wonder if I should even go into that content then, the community seems so toxic and I feel like that because I am already going to be behind I will NEVER catch up.

[Hannia]

Hiding your logs is a good way to make sure you aren't judged on that, however maybe it's better that you unhide them and have someone upload your better parses? Be proud of the fact that you are actively doing better, people only care about the highest number. If you drill down into some of my earlier omega savage runs I've had grey runs. Improve, practise and better yourself.

Sadly I have no way of uploading my logs I don't use a meeter (or know how to even upload a log in the first place) and because of my work week I really cant just find someone to "log me" much less want to run the risk of making a group specifically stating that I'm lookin for someone to use an illegal 3rd party tool to post a log on my fight just so I have a better log on it. I just don't see anyone wanting to take that kind of risk for someone they don't know. Oh and as for my friend it was sheer dumb luck he was still on when I logged on because he normally logs off before I even get home

[RinnLanael]

Another thing, I NEVER said that I was not attempting to get better I only stated that I am tired of getting kicked out of or not even given a chance to do random casual content because of a bad log on a site that I do not use (and barely understand or have time to fool with).

Perfectly understandable. No-one is expecting anything else from you. My suggestion would be to keep logs hidden or join some progression groups (I know you're not looking for progression), simply to get some better logs and then have something that will be more amicable for those people who are looking to farm without any chance of failure. You aren't being kicked out of any personal spite but just a common theme that low DPS usually means more chance of failure and people who are farming don't want to waste any time.

I am not a raider, I have no static, and the highest content I have time to do is Shinryu, the only time I get to play is on weekends because of my job and taking care of my daughter. When my job settles down at the start of 2018 I do plan on sitting down and figuring out stuff better because I will not be working Mon-Fri 12+ hrs a day then coming home to get my daughter from baby sitter and go home and cook dinner and get her ready for bed. As it is right now I am starting to wonder if I should even go into that content then, the community seems so toxic and I feel like that because I am already going to be behind I will NEVER catch up.

Hard content unfortunately does require some effort and time and practise. For example Yoshi-P's comments around people who are not consistently clearing top tier content should not even bother to enter the new Ultimate raids. It's very promising that you are able to do all of that with a full time job and children, I hope that when I get to that point in my life I still have time to do hard content like Shinryu EX. Don't take things too harshly and just set boundaries for yourself that you can achieve. It's very easy to get into the mindset that you can do everything but sometimes you have to take a reality check. I personally believe from what you've said so far you have the ability to get decent parses in Shinryu EX and farm it, just work on that for now and get a friend of yours to get your numbers a bit higher to avoid people assumption kicking you.

[Tracewood]

Practice changing stances. I'm going to use PLD as an example.

If your healer is bad and can't keep you topped, stuck with shield oath. If your healer calls you bad, call them out on it. Don't be afraid to call out the loud mouths.

If your DPS are bad, taking forever to down trash, go sword oath. The more DPS you do the more emnity you can generate.

I've seen tanks pull in DPS for that burst of emnity, then go into tank stance while getting all the hate and having to go back to DPS stance every so often. But if your healer is having trouble topping you off stick to tanks stance. It's not your fault they can't do their jobs.

[HazyAssaulter]

Another thing, I NEVER said that I was not attempting to get better I only stated that I am tired of getting kicked out of or not even given a chance to do random casual content because of a bad log on a site that I do not use (and barely understand or have time to fool with).

Your earlier attitude spoke for you. Your thread was not a question of how to improve. You never sought any advice, and just wanted the people who kicked you to be banned. Your shinryu log has nothing to do with you getting kicked from dungeons or casual content, only getting kicked from shinryu.

[HazyAssaulter]

I am not a raider, I have no static, and the highest content I have time to do is Shinryu, the only time I get to play is on weekends because of my job and taking care of my daughter. When my job settles down at the start of 2018 I do plan on sitting down and figuring out stuff better because I will not be working Mon-Fri 12+ hrs a day then coming home to get my daughter from baby sitter and go home and cook dinner and get her ready for bed.

People can and will kick you from farm parties if they have reason to believe you are going to be dead weight. You are far from the only person with limited time to play, and most people would rather not waste their time if they think they're going to have to carry you. If you cannot handle this eventuality it may be better for you to instead spend your time playing a single player game.

[RinnLanael]

People can and will kick you from farm parties if they have reason to believe you are going to be dead weight. You are far from the only person with limited time to play, and most people would rather not waste their time if they think they're going to have to carry you. If you cannot handle this eventuality it may be better for you to instead spend your time playing a single player game.

Let's not keep this thread going any longer than it needs to. I'm pretty sure Hannia gets it by this point and has some reasonable solutions to their problems. Can we close this one off now?

[HazyAssaulter]

Let's not keep this thread going any longer than it needs to. I'm pretty sure Hannia gets it by this point and has some reasonable solutions to their problems. Can we close this one off now?

At this point it is more about trying to admonish this (essentially), "you don't pay my sub" mentality rather than encourage it. Before I posted in this thread all the feedback was more or less, "Yeah OP, report those people, get those elitists banned!"

Yoshi wanted to avoid fostering a toxic community where people are harassed over low DPS, but his "don't ask don't tell" policy has instead fostered a community of entitlement and selfishness full of people who shut down and go scrambling for the report button as soon as it is even implied that they can improve their performance.

[Hannia]

Let's not keep this thread going any longer than it needs to. I'm pretty sure Hannia gets it by this point and has some reasonable solutions to their problems. Can we close this one off now?

sadly I have asked him to stop multiple times in this forum page and he isn't going to stop, he strikes me as the type that has to make sure he is "right" and the op (me in this case) has been belittled the point they no longer feel human. He has been assuming my attitude and belittling me since the first page of this post because "I'm just wrong and should get over it" when really this whole topic was me asking why it was acceptable and if I could report people for using logs as a reason to remove me from a group before we even go in.

Side note, I hear you can blacklist people on forums but I cant seem to figure it out anyone here know how to blacklist someone on here?