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    mikeysrob's Avatar
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    Keahi Zephyr
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    Request: Remove the light party requirement from FC workshop projects

    This has been a pet peeve of mine for years now, It’s incredibly irritating. I run an F.C. with only 3 active people (including myself) so if we want to make anything, we have to set up a PF and wait hours for someone to respond and help us. (Despite the fact that I can single handedly gather all the materials myself)

    I get that companies are supposed to be a social thing, and that it should be easy to gather 4 F.C. members but that’s just simply not the case. A massive percentage of FCs are small (or even solo) because a lot of us want the benefits without having to deal with social issues, and it just seems unfair that we effectively get penalised for that
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    Even I, a predominately solo player, understands that FC Workshop projects are supposed to be a group effort thing, thus needs a group of people to complete. It defeats the purpose of it being a group project if a single person can do it all alone. If you dont want to deal with social issues then you shouldnt have the perks of a social system. Do some leg work, find another person or two that will join your free company, make more friends who will help with the group project.
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    Don’t get me wrong, I fully understand this supposed to be a big group effort. But if I can do all the work by myself, it just seems pointless to have to rope in other people to actually advance the work. And it’s so hard getting people to join, be online, not be doing anything and be willing to sit in the workshop for ten minutes.

    Why not make it like the diadem, where you only need one other person to assist you. That's still annoying, but far more manageable
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    Barrie Capdevila
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canopia View Post
    Even I, a predominately solo player, understands that FC Workshop projects are supposed to be a group effort thing, thus needs a group of people to complete. It defeats the purpose of it being a group project if a single person can do it all alone. If you dont want to deal with social issues then you shouldnt have the perks of a social system. Do some leg work, find another person or two that will join your free company, make more friends who will help with the group project.
    The way this system works is still pointless, it takes me 20 Minutes to ask in Limsa, and get 3 people to help out, even for free. It's an annoyance at max, so either make it FC only or completely remove the restriction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charisma View Post
    The way this system works is still pointless, it takes me 20 Minutes to ask in Limsa, and get 3 people to help out, even for free. It's an annoyance at max, so either make it FC only, or completetly remove the restriction.
    These solo/handful FC's are just as annoying. The system is fine as is because it's intended to be a group effort. Not some random player with social issues running a solo FC. If you don't want the hassle then either join a larger FC or recruit.
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by dotsforlife View Post
    These solo/handful FC's are just as annoying. The system is fine as is because it's intended to be a group effort. Not some random player with social issues running a solo FC. If you don't want the hassle then either join a larger FC or recruit.
    I totally agree. FC's were not intended for 1 player or a few players. They might as well open it to private estates then to be fair. Oh I'd love my little solo workshop and airships. Why not.
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    Scott Pilgrim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canopia View Post
    It defeats the purpose of it being a group project if a single person can do it all alone.
    Obviously I can't speak for all FCs, but I'm pretty sure that whenever a project is being created, in most cases it's only a single person doing all the work/hand-ins. At least that's what I get from my own experiences with my FC as well as people asking in chat/party finder and then only a single person from that FC handing in. The other three people are just standing around to make up the required number.

    Maybe it was supposed to be a social/group thing, but in reality that's just not what happens.

    What I hate most is when I'm making a batch of Aetherial Wheels (which are easily a single person task). Adding all the items and doing all the necessary menu clicking works out at just over 90 mouse clicks PER WHEEL and no matter how fast you can go, because of the 4 person requirement 3 other people are still forced to waste their time and wait there for as many as you're making just because of that cumbersome requirement.

    Please SE, lower the requirement to just a party of crafters (number doesn't matter) and please let us hand in all items at once (or at the very least all of a single item instead of making us do it in 3 batches).
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    Last edited by worldofneil; 11-11-2017 at 12:01 AM.

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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canopia View Post
    Even I, a predominately solo player, understands that FC Workshop projects are supposed to be a group effort thing, thus needs a group of people to complete. It defeats the purpose of it being a group project if a single person can do it all alone. If you dont want to deal with social issues then you shouldnt have the perks of a social system. Do some leg work, find another person or two that will join your free company, make more friends who will help with the group project.
    Thing is - it isn't a group effort and never was.
    The light party requirement just means that one person clicks a few buttons while the other three stand around in the workshop twiddling their thumbs.

    The preparations (where the real effort lies) may or may not involve several people - but does not require any grouping.
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canopia View Post
    Even I, a predominately solo player, understands that FC Workshop projects are supposed to be a group effort thing, thus needs a group of people to complete. It defeats the purpose of it being a group project if a single person can do it all alone. If you dont want to deal with social issues then you shouldnt have the perks of a social system. Do some leg work, find another person or two that will join your free company, make more friends who will help with the group project.
    I feel like this argument would have merit if the actual process that requires a Light Party isn’t just 1 person contributing materials while the other 3 stand around semi-AFK.
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    Airget Lamh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canopia View Post
    Even I, a predominately solo player, understands that FC Workshop projects are supposed to be a group effort thing, thus needs a group of people to complete. It defeats the purpose of it being a group project if a single person can do it all alone. If you dont want to deal with social issues then you shouldnt have the perks of a social system. Do some leg work, find another person or two that will join your free company, make more friends who will help with the group project.
    Ya, and this has been on the Housing sub forum I think, I know there is a topic like this on another area of the site but basically I think people need to stop looking at "make it single" and suggest way to make it more interactive for players.

    Like each crafter can do something while the process is going on to have influence over the end results, whether it be HQing the object in question, doubling the quantity recieved or even reducing the materials used to 1/3 what they normally would be.

    If FC workshops had this level of dynamic interaction with it then at least there would be a need for players to be there rather than it's current design where you are suppose to imagine the 4 players are all adding to the materials for the item being worked on.
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