Request: Remove the light party requirement from FC workshop projects

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Even I, a predominately solo player, understands that FC Workshop projects are supposed to be a group effort thing, thus needs a group of people to complete. It defeats the purpose of it being a group project if a single person can do it all alone. If you dont want to deal with social issues then you shouldnt have the perks of a social system. Do some leg work, find another person or two that will join your free company, make more friends who will help with the group project.

Except it isn't a group project. One person does all the work while three other people stand around contributing absolutely nothing to the craft. It isn't about finding friends but the sheer inconvenience of having three people who can stand around for ten minutes when I want to do something with the work ship. Sure, I can get them but again, it's a silly system. I'd feel differently if this were an actual project we build. Alas, it's just an arbitrary gate they put in because reasons.

[Kaethra]

Even I, a predominately solo player, understands that FC Workshop projects are supposed to be a group effort thing, thus needs a group of people to complete. It defeats the purpose of it being a group project if a single person can do it all alone. If you dont want to deal with social issues then you shouldnt have the perks of a social system. Do some leg work, find another person or two that will join your free company, make more friends who will help with the group project.

As a predominantly group player, I think its absurd when arbitrary restrictions are put in place. Imagine if you left a city zone and it gave you the message 'its dangerous to go alone, form a light party before continuing'. You'd be upset, and rightfully so. Yet I don't suggest they should make that a thing despite this being a MMO.

The better design is to make the content challenging enough for four players that bringing less is.. more challenging. I'm sure you've solo'd a handful of FATES despite them being designed for multiple players. Fair is fair after all.

[Senn]

Imagine if you left a city zone and it gave you the message 'its dangerous to go alone, form a light party before continuing'.

That sounds kinda cool tbh. I mean, not a forced party or anything, and not for all zones. If there was one open world zone that was super dangerous, and you'd actually need party members to get through, that'd be interesting.

For example, you know how for POTD you actually need to go to quarrymill to que for it? They could make something like POTD in a really dangerous zone, and you'd need to run to it before queing in. It'd be kinda cool seeing people form parties just to get there safely. I think the dungeon would have to be rewarding for people to actually want to venture out into an open world zone where they could easily die without a party though. No flying or swimming of course.

[Canopia]

Imagine if you left a city zone and it gave you the message 'its dangerous to go alone, form a light party before continuing'. .

I dont have to imagine, there was an entire game that you pretty much had to do that. It was called Final Fantasy XI.

[Niqote]

Even I, a predominately solo player, understands that FC Workshop projects are supposed to be a group effort thing, thus needs a group of people to complete. It defeats the purpose of it being a group project if a single person can do it all alone. If you dont want to deal with social issues then you shouldnt have the perks of a social system. Do some leg work, find another person or two that will join your free company, make more friends who will help with the group project.

But you CAN do it alone. I've made my own house skin for my personal house and only needed people to come afk int he workshop so I can submit all the materials that I personally made/gatherered.

It was a solo project that forced me to have onlookers.

[FoxyAreku]

Even I, a predominately solo player, understands that FC Workshop projects are supposed to be a group effort thing, thus needs a group of people to complete. It defeats the purpose of it being a group project if a single person can do it all alone. If you dont want to deal with social issues then you shouldnt have the perks of a social system. Do some leg work, find another person or two that will join your free company, make more friends who will help with the group project.

Then it needs to be better implemented. It isn't a group effort at all right now, it's a single person effort, and then a group effort of "Hey can 3 people come stand in this room for 3 seconds?"

It's highly unnecessary and dumb ATM. If they can't implement 'group crafting' ten times better than this then I vote to remove the requirement completely.

I help run a medium sized FC, and that it's hard to get people to come to the FC shop because either people don't have any crafters unlocked since they don't like crafting or they are on at different times. It becomes a bit annoying. To create our Shirogane Castle I managed to actually get 2 FC members (a rare occurrence), but I still had to seek outside help. Just one other person would be an amazing change. FC Projects are hardly a group effort when all they do is stand there in the zone waiting for it to be done.

Now that in particular just sounds like your FC is filled with lazy people who don't want to help out. You can do it even with a level 1 crafter class-if people aren't willing to even go pick up level 1 culinary or something your FC has more problems then this limitation TBH.

[Raldo]

"Hey can 3 people come stand in this room for 3 seconds?"

If you like asking people a bunch of times to come back, sure. The difficult part is getting them to stay there if you plan on doing more than one step of a synth, because they have absolutely nothing to do.

[ProjectT]

Wholeheartedly agree with removing this requirement!! It is so old and obsolete and terribly annoying. Especially when I have to stand and feed the machine 30 darksteel ingots and 30 darksteel plate, while the others who don't want to be there are yawning and prefer to be having fun elsewhere in the game. Get rid of the minutiae, SE!!

[Krokov]

I agree it would be nice to have others but getting people to join an FC is lot more difficult than people might think. And with you saying you actually need others in order to advance projects well I guess our FC won't be having any project advancement anytime soon we try to recruit others but people come on and just do their own thing then log off only me and a few others are really what you'd call active if you will.

So yes OP I agree with you.

[Amariel34]

I think something that might help is changing the requirement that everyone needs to be in the FC workshop. People don't want to drop what they are doing to get there. Maybe implement some type of remote device you can carry with you to help with FC projects anywhere. Or even just have to be in a major city. It's easier to get to Kugane from Azim Steppes than to have to go to Mist.