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    Quote Originally Posted by Namingwayfinder View Post
    Since this thread is specifically about WAR, I'll use it as an example. It has 1 starter, 2 mid combo extenders, and 3 finishers. So, to be able to use any finisher when you want to, you would still need 3 slots on an action bar. So really, would it help anything? Probably not.
    I don't see why anyone would be against reducing 6 buttons down to 3. I would certainly like to see it. I've never seen any valid argument for not doing it, aside from the ambiguous "I don't like it". So long as they don't do what PvP currently does and prevent you from setting the intermediary actions on your bar, having both options available should satisfy both parties.

    With that said, this isn't really on the same topic as the OP, so I feel the need to throw in my two cents on the original topic: No thanks. Warrior stances are fine as-is.
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    Last edited by Raldo; 12-31-2017 at 04:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    I don't see why anyone would be against reducing 6 buttons down to 3.
    One simple reason:

    Muscle Memory.

    If someone has learned using 6 keys at their best efficiency, purposefully lowering it to 3 keys to reduce button bloat (while I think Warrior doesn't even have that many buttons to press...) is rather damaging the efficiency of hard-trained muscle memory for the gameplay. For this simple reason I simply can't bring it over myself to PvP without putting the Rage of Halone combo key accross 1-2-3 and the Royal Authority combo key on 4-5 so I could mimic my combo how it was in PVE.

    Even if the option was there, I doubt enough people would eventually use it to make this a thing. Mind you the dumbed down combo keys for PvP dont ONLY contain positive feedback for what they stand for...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    I don't see why anyone would be against reducing 6 buttons down to 3. I would certainly like to see it. I've never seen any valid argument for not doing it, aside from the ambiguous "I don't like it". So long as they don't do what PvP currently does and prevent you from setting the intermediary actions on your bar, having both options available should satisfy both parties.

    With that said, this isn't really on the same topic as the OP, so I feel the need to throw in my two cents on the original topic: No thanks. Warrior stances are fine as-is.
    I agree with you on Warrior stances, the class is in a good place, they can focus on Dark Knight now that Warrior and Paladin don't need any significant changes. However, I appear to have explained my "stance"(;3c) on the PvP macros in PvE a little poorly, so I'll try to explain a little more clearly. In the end, you're still hitting all the same buttons, yes? So two of those macros are in essence the exact same two buttons, then a different finisher. Part of what I think shows mastery over a class and skill in an MMO is bar utilization and layout. It's somewhat like Reinhardt_Azureheim said, you learn based on familiarity and repetition. finding places on my hotbars or finding keybinds that work for all of the skills the class uses is part of what I find fun about MMOs.

    To me, having only three buttons instead of six would be more boring, I wouldn't have to be usingmy brain nearly as much if everything was condensed down into two or three buttons for six skills. For other people, though, who don't share my feelings this could work better for them, maybe six skills was just too much space taken up and they haven't memorized their bars because they're not a perfectionist. Then the PvP style macro system would work for them better. I know it would definitely be better for console, since I find the gamepad controls very clunky and not made for smoothness of execution.

    TL;DR: I wouldn't care if they were put in, and I'm not against them being put in. However my reasoning is not an ambiguous, "I don't like it" so much as it is personal preference and enjoyment.
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    Last edited by Namingwayfinder; 12-31-2017 at 09:23 PM.
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