Open world PvP Zone

[Kisagami]

You just came up with an idea I really like, ThirdChild, and it addresses all my concerns. All I had been looking for. Though you may want to take your ideas to your own thread, since this one isn’t really easy to read through to how we got to this point. Maybe easier for SE to see a seperate thread with ideas, linking to the brainstorm process here.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I may repost it later. This was kinda just a jumble done waiting for lunch. I can maybe think more clearly once I've actually eaten.

[Kisagami]

I may repost it later. This was kinda just a jumble done waiting for lunch. I can maybe think more clearly once I've actually eaten.

Well, after all the hairpulling it took to get to this point, your idea has my support. It isn’t so hard to find a compromise in the middle. I was your strongest naysayer. I’ll contribute to the thread when you post it.

[Alien_Gamer]

Also imagine if you were fresh to the game and you saw groups of level 70's duking it out in Middle La Noscea. You can't participate yet because you are too low and can't participate. The PvP'ers can't attack you because the coding prohibits it. Wouldn't seeing that alone build excitement?

Honestly, no. There are few things I find less appealing than having high level characters trying to duel in a low level area. If i had run into this when I started there is a good chance I wouldn't have bothered continuing to play.

[Alien_Gamer]

Good ideas

That sounds like a good way to have what you want that wouldn't impact non-PvP players. I wouldn't go there, but I like the idea.

[Wintersandman]

Honestly, no. There are few things I find less appealing than having high level characters trying to duel in a low level area. If i had run into this when I started there is a good chance I wouldn't have bothered continuing to play.

Why do you find it unappealing?

[SeriousxSarcasm]

It sounds like one of those things that sounds good, and everyone asks for, but any version of it will be a disappointment (like diadem 1.0). If it is it's own zone, can you name any reason for people to want to go there? Being able to kill each other won't be good enough in the long run, and placing non-pvp related content in there seems unfair to just try and get pve players into it for slaughter. Frontlines has point objectives with crystals and killing each other. The others fill people's competitive streak. Admittedly I haven't read the whole thread, so maybe someone mentioned a legit and interesting idea.

Summary: I am interested in the theoretical concept proposed. I don't see anything that makes me think it can become relevant content.

[RydiaFey]

This was a long read but finally finished.

So many wonderful suggestions here I'm blown away. I would be so excited to see something like this, esp. Re PvP Fates and objectives set within the zone. I especially love the suggestion of protecting your gatherers, using them to rebuild your base.

I think if dueling (1v1) felt a little better I'd get more into it, but it feels unbalanced personally. If we could duel anywhere I think that could inspire people to try PvP.

Played a lot of Diablo so I'm used to "counteracting" gankers, made for a lot of fun in dark souls too. Can't tell you how many epic fights (not always 100% fair which kept it interesting and dynamic) Also makes it very rewarding when you do win using skill.

[RydiaFey]

99% of them ended with a private msg telling the other person how epic that was

It's funny how they exclaimed how "toxic" our community is, not then said horrible, selfish things like " if it doesn't benefit me directly, then it's a wast of resources, even if it makes this other part of the community happy"

That one hurt too read.

[Wintersandman]

Summary: I am interested in the theoretical concept proposed. I don't see anything that makes me think it can become relevant content.

Typically in other MMO's where they have Open World PvP they will have bonuses of some sort granted to the winning side. For example Immortal Flames if won may get a bonus to experience, tomes received, etc, etc. There are lots of different bonuses they could implement and could have multiple that are time based and different factions could win which would entice all sorts of people to participate.

10% success rate on gathering attempts
10% HQ rate on Gathering Attempts
10% Experience bonus
10% Tome Bonus
50% MGP Bonus


So Flames could walk away from the match and they completed/held XYZ objectives which grants them a 50% MGP bonus and 10% Tome Bonus. Adders claimed the 10% Exp Bonus. and Mael Claimed the gathering bonuses.

It doesn't have to be win all type event.