Open world PvP Zone

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

It sounds like one of those things that sounds good, and everyone asks for, but any version of it will be a disappointment (like diadem 1.0). If it is it's own zone, can you name any reason for people to want to go there? Being able to kill each other won't be good enough in the long run, and placing non-pvp related content in there seems unfair to just try and get pve players into it for slaughter. Frontlines has point objectives with crystals and killing each other. The others fill people's competitive streak. Admittedly I haven't read the whole thread, so maybe someone mentioned a legit and interesting idea.

Summary: I am interested in the theoretical concept proposed. I don't see anything that makes me think it can become relevant content.

Let there be no mistake that PvP is all about competition. Failure to understand that before stepping in is failure to prepare. And we all know what coming unprepared does.

The reason to go there is self-contained: you go there if you want to PvP. The idea isn't to attract people uninterested in PvP at all. It's to give PvPers a little more than what little they get. And PvP content, especially a zone that can be entered at any time - free of queues, free of matchmaking complications - would definitely be relevant.

[RydiaFey]

This was a long read but finally finished.

So many wonderful suggestions here I'm blown away. I would be so excited to see something like this, esp. Re PvP Fates and objectives set within the zone. I especially love the suggestion of protecting your gatherers, using them to rebuild your base.

I think if dueling (1v1) felt a little better I'd get more into it, but it feels unbalanced personally. If we could duel anywhere I think that could inspire people to try PvP.

Played a lot of Diablo so I'm used to "counteracting" gankers, made for a lot of fun in dark souls too. Can't tell you how many epic fights (not always 100% fair which kept it interesting and dynamic) Also makes it very rewarding when you do win using skill.

[RydiaFey]

99% of them ended with a private msg telling the other person how epic that was

It's funny how they exclaimed how "toxic" our community is, not then said horrible, selfish things like " if it doesn't benefit me directly, then it's a wast of resources, even if it makes this other part of the community happy"

That one hurt too read.

[Enlial]

After being away for almost a year its amazing that the same threads are still at the top of the pvp forum xD Having tried SB pvp for the first time I have to say I think the first thing they should do is go back to the way it was before. As it is now, theres no depth to it and feels more like verminion or triple triad; just more side content. Not that side content is bad but it used to be so much more. At least thats my impression so far.

But anyways, on topic, google "world vs world" if you've never played gw2. I think they could do something like that with the diadem system they had before. Match up servers based on rank, have a zone with like 100 slots per server that players can zone into, stay as long as they like and fight over some objectives that give buffs to their respective servers while held

[rhosaria]

theres nothing wrong with a pvp zone.....its a mmo. most mmos have pvp zones. If you don't wana pvp or get pked, don't go into the pvp zone.....stick with ur casual pve content.

[NewAgeDoom]

theres nothing wrong with a pvp zone.....its a mmo. most mmos have pvp zones. If you don't wana pvp or get pked, don't go into the pvp zone.....stick with ur casual pve content.

Spoken like someone who hasn't done an iota of any remotely challenging PvE content in any MMO.

I can see why people enjoy PvP, but I really do, but posts like this are definitely not helping the case to incentivize PvP to primarily PvE players.

And you're taking off 3 letters. MMORPG. Which means primarily questing, PvE content. PvP being optional.

Heck, even WoW's PVP was initially an afterthought.

[rhosaria]

Btw I played almost every mmo out there. for 15+ years. Pve and Pvp alike. I never found pve in any "mmorpg" < cuz u care about that so much challenging.

[rhosaria]

Pve content IS casual. theres nothing hard about pve. AI don't think. People do.

[Adeacia]

Pve content IS casual. theres nothing hard about pve. AI don't think. People do.

Funny thing. In a previous mmo I played I did a fair amount of pvp. The players all acted like AI. They would use the same moves in the same order every time. A stun would ALWAYS be the first move, without fail for example. I would counter that and beat them. It was the pvp that bored me, not the pve.

[Crit]

Funny thing. In a previous mmo I played I did a fair amount of pvp. The players all acted like AI. They would use the same moves in the same order every time. A stun would ALWAYS be the first move, without fail for example. I would counter that and beat them. It was the pvp that bored me, not the pve.

Sounds like the playerbase of that game was stupid, kind of like this one