Thread: Requesting Information on Jobs: Preparing for 1.21

Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

well you already know the opinion i have on jobs as they are being released. a white mage is just a conjurer with 5 new abilities they cannot cross class.

Yea... a WHM has the abilities of a level 60 CNJ with the stats of a level 50 CNJ

Originally Posted by Rydin

Yea... a WHM has the abilities of a level 60 CNJ with the stats of a level 50 CNJ

This would make sense if we got all five abilities at R50. For those who are already R50 it will feel like you're gaining more levels. But for those who are <30, it will be more like the old guild marks, where you have to unlock certain abilities every 5 levels before you can use them..

Just sayin <3

And thank god these quests won't just be spamming the same levequest for more guild marks. T_T

We have to play it to see. If you played FFXI enough you'll realize just hearing about something you can't really differentiate till you utilize it, for example you hear:

"A job that can work as a frontline healer, tank and DD." (Dancer) How would that be different from RDM, which has adequate skill in Sword and Dagger and can heal on the front lines just as well? How would that make DNC diff from PLD/NIN/WAR/MNK? (The tank jobs) Playing it you realize it's not a blood tank, nor evasion tank but it's more of a endurance tank.

Same with SCH, it has access to all tiers of Nukes (excluding ancient, aga and aja) and all curative spells excluding a certain few, how do you differentiate it from BLM, WHM, PUP or RDM? It has a certain something to set it apart (Stratagems and Arts.) So while Jobs in XIV may not seem different from Classes in text, in execution there may be a lot of reasons Jobs are different from classes, even ignoring the obvious cross-class lockouts.

I just want to confirm something here. Are you saying that BLM for example will NOT have the capability to have Stone Skin? Because it's attached to THM and PUG?


If that is the case.. then SE has ultimately killed FFXIV, at least in my mind and is no longer worthy of playing and wasting money.

So one the off chance, now hear me out. What happens if SE says that we can only cross class abilties from the two class that are required from the list.

So I can only use 3 useless moves from pugilist. Not sentinel, invigorate to back-up second wind to make it useful, or chameleon.

What good would jobs be if they could only cross class abilities from two classes?

I hope you are wrong... if jobs are not stronger than classes this is epic fail

Originally Posted by Darkhaund

I hope you are wrong... if jobs are not stronger than classes this is epic fail

Stronger, yes. More limited, yes.