Thread: Requesting Information on Jobs: Preparing for 1.21

Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

Current GLA is a solid, defensive tank.
PLD gains access to much greater defense, sure, but also very much unique White Magic abilities.

So your saying GLD is a tank... and by adding 5 more abilities you make it a better tank

Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

MRD is a sort of offensive tank and reliable DD.
WAR gains abilities that bolster the party's offense, add valuable crowd control, and solid AoE damage.

So MRD that can tank or DD (Including AOE), is given abilities to make it a better tank and DD (Including AOE)

Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

PGL is a solid solo class and a very effective, yet risky, DD. When played well it has the ability to do the greatest DPS.
MNK gains powerful crowd control through Sap, as well as abilities that further increase DPS directly - Hundred Fists & Kick.

So PGL has good DPS and Monk should increase DPS.....

Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

LNC is a reliable, long-range melee DD that can safely deal damage, but relies on criticals to reach its potential.
DRG gains crowd control as well as safer damage dealing skills. It gains Jump. JUMP.

LNC can DD from a distance, making it a safer DD... and DRG makes it an even safer DD

Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

ARC is the longest range physical DD. It can deal low but reliable DPS from a safe distance. It has various crowd control skills.
BRD gains very valuable party buffs through various songs, as well as a seemingly very effective weapon skill.

I don't know what to say about Bard until I see it in action... will be fun to try though

Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

THM is an offensive magic user that is most effective for spike elemental magic damage as well as crowd control. It's primarily good for getting through clutch moments and its weakness lies in its difficulty of ability to sustain long battles.
BLM is an offensive magic user with access to devastating Ancient Magic. It gains a very effective crowd control skill with Sleepga as well as a direct cover for THM's weakness with Convert, effectively turning it into a much more reliable DD with sustainable DPS.

once again... a magic nuker in whcih more spells equals more DPS

Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

CNJ is a defensive magic user which focuses on healing and buffing, but is able to access a number of offensive elemental nukes as well.
WHM gains essential White Magic, such as Regen, Esuna, and of course the very powerful Benediction which are all more than enough to separate it from the base class. It also gains a vital buff allowing it to more effectively keep its party safe with Chainspell and a likely powerful, costly nuke in Holy, which comes with a potent crowd control effect as well.

Still just sounds like more of the same

Im not saying Jobs aren't good... I'm just saying they dont specialize anything... they are just more of what we've come to expect from the classes
Yes they make this aspect or that aspect better....
But you know what else does that? Leveling the class from 1 to 50!!!

As you level a class, you gain new skills that make you better... new weaponskills, abilities, magic... but they all fall in line with the identity of your class... thats a description of leveling your class... and yet it sounds exactly like a description of Jobs....
I know I may get flamed for this... but jobs sound no different than raising the level cap and giving us those abilities as part of the class
Maybe it will change when I play them... but for now... it is what it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cR-WiGKZtg

My thoughts on Black Mage so far.

I don't think the job system will fully come into its own until they add a 2nd job for each class.

This won't happen until the first expansion though most likely.

If they don't go down that path then they may as well just remove classes completely and just have jobs because they don't seem that much difference anymore.

I would be happy with either scenario

Originally Posted by Jinko

I don't think the job system will fully come into its own until they add a 2nd job for each class.

This won't happen until the first expansion though most likely.

If they don't go down that path then they may as well just remove classes completely and just have jobs because they don't seem that much difference anymore.

I would be happy with either scenario

This ... oh my frikkin God this...
I was thinking this on my way home... this is what I was going to post... thats funny...
Like word for word I was going to say this

Originally Posted by Darkhaund

I hope you are wrong... if jobs are not stronger than classes this is epic fail

I agree...
But here is the one statement that sums it all up

"Paladin is better than Gladiator the same way a Level 50 Gladiator is better than a level 40 gladiator"
Simply put... WHM just gives you the next abilities that you'd expect a CNJ to get and so on

Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

cross-classing the classes is one of the things i actually really enjoyed about this game.

Agreed... DP, Did you like my post #403 of this thread? I pretty much put your philosophy in writing