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    I like how ppl say don't make this game like XI, but you wanna get your af gear the same shity way XI did lol -.-. Getting AF gear in XI was not hard standing there killing mobs for a key for about 2 hrs was not hard or any of the quest bosses if you had an pt. Also @ Wynm or w/e You could easily get 1-50 in xi in 3 days before ToA expansion, a lot of you guys seem to have this magic memory of xi lvling taking 4 years to do. Only thing that made xi lvling take a long time if you stood in jeuno with your flag waiting for a pt instead of making your own party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    I like how ppl say don't make this game like XI, but you wanna get your af gear the same shity way XI did lol -.-. Getting AF gear in XI was not hard standing there killing mobs for a key for about 2 hrs was not hard or any of the quest bosses if you had an pt. Also @ Wynm or w/e You could easily get 1-50 in xi in 3 days before ToA expansion, a lot of you guys seem to have this magic memory of xi lvling taking 4 years to do. Only thing that made xi lvling take a long time if you stood in jeuno with your flag waiting for a pt instead of making your own party.
    That's a bunch of crap and you know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    That's a bunch of crap and you know it.
    You can keep telling your self that Stop trying to make XI to be this super hard game to lvl in. I got my Hume pld to 1-50 in 3 days after i Deleted my lvl 70 Taru rdm. Took me 3 days to lvl war 1-30 and pld 1-50. This was when i was in high school summer break and nothing else to do you can keep calling bs but its facts. Even after WotG the First Dancer on Vqlefor was lvl 75 in 2 Days -.-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    You can keep telling your self that Stop trying to make XI to be this super hard game to lvl in. I got my Hume pld to 1-50 in 3 days after i Deleted my lvl 70 Taru rdm. Took me 3 days to lvl war 1-30 and pld 1-50. This was when i was in high school summer break and nothing else to do you can keep calling bs but its facts. Even after WotG the First Dancer on Vqlefor was lvl 75 in 2 Days -.-

    I don't know where you get this idea that I'm some sort of XI defender, because I'm anything but. However, I know BS when I see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    I don't know where you get this idea that I'm some sort of XI defender, because I'm anything but. However, I know BS when I see it.
    If its bull explain to me why its not possible then. i got 1-32 in one day is that believable to you? Hell actually you can get get 1-37 in less than 24 hrs it's possible and has been done many times. So if someone can get 1-37 in one day why not 37-45 the next day, and 46-50 the next. Also no TNL's from 1-50 are over 8k You can easily get 3-4k exp an hr with any pt set up pre 41.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    I like how ppl say don't make this game like XI, but you wanna get your af gear the same shity way XI did lol -.-. Getting AF gear in XI was not hard standing there killing mobs for a key for about 2 hrs was not hard or any of the quest bosses if you had an pt. Also @ Wynm or w/e You could easily get 1-50 in xi in 3 days before ToA expansion, a lot of you guys seem to have this magic memory of xi lvling taking 4 years to do. Only thing that made xi lvling take a long time if you stood in jeuno with your flag waiting for a pt instead of making your own party.
    1-50 in 3 days? you must have no sleep and a party willing to stay up for 3 days in order to max out everything... :/ Lets try 2 weeks min 1 month Max :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    1-50 in 3 days? you must have no sleep and a party willing to stay up for 3 days in order to max out everything... :/ Lets try 2 weeks min 1 month Max :/
    Like i said it only took that long if you stayed there and Afk lfg in jeuno all day which 90% of the player base did in XI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    Like i said it only took that long if you stayed there and Afk lfg in jeuno all day which 90% of the player base did in XI.
    Active players even for myself it didn't take 3 days.. I tested this out with a Galka I made and made my own parties 1-50 and I was able to do it a a week at least. I stopped at 60 in which took me another 3-5 days. I'm sorry but I'm calling bull on 3 days unless you always had a party to do so for those 3 days. Either way you look at it FFXI is in the past and I don't care to discuss about it.. FFXIV is new a better things that I'm hoping it will flourish to all it can be.
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    I think the thing people keep forgetting is that orginally FFXI had a level cap of 50, just like FFXIV does. The AF quests in XI took an entire party to farm the keys and kill the NM's if you did it between 50-60. They were HARD! Three of us were trying to get our BLM hats and had to get the aid of a 55 SMN to tank the elemental with carbuncle while we nuked, died, raised without hate and repeated. Took 25minutes to kill it. Even recently I remade a character on XI, got WAR to 40 to unlock AF weapon quest and couldnt solo it until I was 50. At 50 I unlocked the AF feet quest and I couldn't solo it until I was 60 and that was sub DNC for TP cures. I remember having a terrible time fighting those two orcs even at 70 before DNC came out! And don't get me started on farming keys in The Eldiemme Necropolis or Garliage Citadel.

    The quests could be just as challenging, if not more so, this time around. Unlocking the jobs at 30 (just like in XI) is designed for 30's and at 30 will likely be soloable/duoable. At 50 they're going to be a cinch to solo no question about that. The armor though... I see that being a headache and a half, especially if it's going to be better than a triple meld item.

    tl;dr - read it! :P There's plenty of hope for a challenge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartaDemireux View Post
    I think the thing people keep forgetting is that orginally FFXI had a level cap of 50, just like FFXIV does. The AF quests in XI took an entire party to farm the keys and kill the NM's if you did it between 50-60. They were HARD! Three of us were trying to get our BLM hats and had to get the aid of a 55 SMN to tank the elemental with carbuncle while we nuked, died, raised without hate and repeated. Took 25minutes to kill it. Even recently I remade a character on XI, got WAR to 40 to unlock AF weapon quest and couldnt solo it until I was 50. At 50 I unlocked the AF feet quest and I couldn't solo it until I was 60 and that was sub DNC for TP cures. I remember having a terrible time fighting those two orcs even at 70 before DNC came out! And don't get me started on farming keys in The Eldiemme Necropolis or Garliage Citadel.

    The quests could be just as challenging, if not more so, this time around. Unlocking the jobs at 30 (just like in XI) is designed for 30's and at 30 will likely be soloable/duoable. At 50 they're going to be a cinch to solo no question about that. The armor though... I see that being a headache and a half, especially if it's going to be better than a triple meld item.

    tl;dr - read it! :P There's plenty of hope for a challenge.
    It's not that XI was hard it was that Mostly no classes outside of BLM PuP BST BLU NIN THF PLD MNK SMN RDM could solo well. The game was not solo friendly. This is the same game where once you hit 50+ EP mobs was actually EM in challenge. XI just has this artificial barrier making you thinking the game was hard cause you could not do anything solo. IF every class in the game had tools like the above classes the game wouldn't have even seemed that hard.
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