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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    Jobs are for party... Classes are for soloing... I know, I know
    But no one will be using Glad, for example for anything.. even solo... wont even happen...
    Correction:

    Jobs are for Full Parties, or relatively large parties, where each player can focus on a single role and be completely dependent on their teammates for other things.

    Classes are for solo and Light Parties where due to there being less people each player has to be able to fulfill multiple roles and be more independent the less party members they have to help.
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    Also, as a side note, while some people chose to focus on the only real info we have about jobs thus far - the skills they will receive - I'm sure there will be much more significant differences between a class and it's job based on stats and even gear that will clearly define where it is best to use one over the other and make them noticeably different from each other.

    That's the reason for a lot of the questions in the OP. Not only are they there for the devs and reps to look at and know what we want to know, but also to demonstrate to the forum-goers and players how much we still don't know about jobs and thus stimulate some discussion.

    Also, my sincere thanks to everyone trying to keep the thread on topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Correction:

    Jobs are for Full Parties, or relatively large parties, where each player can focus on a single role and be completely dependent on their teammates for other things.

    Classes are for solo and Light Parties where due to there being less people each player has to be able to fulfill multiple roles and be more independent the less party members they have to help.
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    Also, as a side note, while some people chose to focus on the only real info we have about jobs thus far - the skills they will receive - I'm sure there will be much more significant differences between a class and it's job based on stats and even gear that will clearly define where it is best to use one over the other and make them noticeably different from each other.

    That's the reason for a lot of the questions in the OP. Not only are they there for the devs and reps to look at and know what we want to know, but also to demonstrate to the forum-goers and players how much we still don't know about jobs and thus stimulate some discussion.

    Also, my sincere thanks to everyone trying to keep the thread on topic.
    I know... I still just can't imagine why someone would want to be a Glad and not Palladin... even solo, I don't see anyone choose the class over the job in that situation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    I know... I still just can't imagine why someone would want to be a Glad and not Palladin... even solo, I don't see anyone choose the class over the job in that situation
    If the PLD hits like a wet noodle, does not have access to cross-class skills like Invigorate, Featherfoot, Second Wind, and Keen Flurry... probably wouldn't be a good solo choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    If the PLD hits like a wet noodle, does not have access to cross-class skills like Invigorate, Featherfoot, Second Wind, and Keen Flurry... probably wouldn't be a good solo choice.
    Featherfoot and second wind fail compared to PLD having it's own heal and being IMPERVIOUS to physical attacks....
    Keen Flurry? Really?
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    Also, doesn't making yourself impervious to physical attacks disable or weaken your melee?
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    I would assume a PLD will do less damage in exchange for its better tanking ability. I'm hoping anyway...

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    Also, I have to admit that even tho SE stated otherwise, I still hope I'll be able to solo in some extent with jobs.

    Every class has its own healing ability of some sorts, let's see if higher dmg output accounts for the loss in healing that you lose from the inability to cross class skills like bloodbath or second wind (pld won't have that problem).
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    It's a tough call, I expect pld to be better at mitigating dmg and generating enmity, as well as protecting allies, but not necessarily weaker in terms of dmg.

    They said they will limit the versatility aspect of jobs, but not specific assets of the base class
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    Some info on job-specific armor: http://goo.gl/YvWav
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    As we are on the eve of 1.21 it seems that there are more info on Jobs being released. In favor of keeping this thread's OP up to date and consolidating discussion I'll be bumping this.
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