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    HaelseMikiro's Avatar
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    Febreealle Goldlyonse
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    Repairing other peoples gear in a dungeon is an awful idea. The ways SE could implement it,either:
    1) you'd spend your own gil to repair a strangers gear because they're a sandbag. If the event you have to do this for 7 people in your party... RIP your own personal stock for self repairs. Followed by forum threads titled "I repaired 7 peoples gear in Shinryu Ex and then they vote kicked me"
    2) they'd have to remember to carry their own stock of carbon matters, and they already can't even remember to repair at a vendor. Followed by forum threads titles "SE we need more inventory space because we have to carry materials for repairs"
    3) Put a repair NPC at the start of every dungeon. Lore wise, this makes 0 sense. Probably a better option still compared to #1 and #2.

    What would absolutely not work and never be on the table as a possible discussion?
    Preventing queue based on durability. DPS especially can have some lengthy wait times. Even if they Q up at 41% durability, a few deaths while fate grinding might have them drop below a safe threshold just as their duty finally pops. There's no all inclusive solution for requiring a durability value for a duty.

    Possible solution 4) Just negate durability loss in duties. Fixes all issues. Followed by forum threads titled "SE just go the extra step and remove all durability and repair functions from the game, because the entire concept has completely failed as a gil sink since patch 2.1 when you added gil to dungeon mobs SPECIFICALLY to cover repair costs, and it adds less depth to the game than it adds headaches with all this personal responsibility to repair, followed by dev time wasted trying to develop ways to remind people to be responsible in regards to their gear when grouping with others."
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    Siesta Fiesta
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaelseMikiro View Post
    Repairing other peoples gear in a dungeon is an awful idea. The ways SE could implement it,either
    Option 4: Let crafters repair other peoples' gear, and automatically give the crafters gil from the other person's bag. Maybe at the same rate as the mender NPCs, or let the crafter add 100% durability to the person's gear, and charge gil based on the NPC cost of the relevant Dark Matters, while not actually costing any Dark Matter.

    Example: I repair someone's chest piece for them. That chest piece is for a level 60 character, and therefore requires 1 Grade 6 Dark Matter. NPCs charge 120 gil for that, so when I repair that chest piece, I add 100% durability to its durability rating, and I get 120 gil out of the other person's pocket, automatically.

    And just so people can't refuse to let others repair their gear (in case of trolls), make it so that crafters can force-repairs on others. I also know this sounds like it could be abused to steal others' gil, so to prevent this, make it so that gear cannot be repaired once it goes above 100% durability, so that a crafter can only repair a person's gear once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
    make it so that crafters can force-repairs on others.
    Lol. Good luck with that happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
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    Repair is a gil sink, your solution isn't removing any gil, if the person is going to be charged that gil has to be removed and not given to you.
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
    And just so people can't refuse to let others repair their gear (in case of trolls), make it so that crafters can force-repairs on others. I also know this sounds like it could be abused to steal others' gil, so to prevent this, make it so that gear cannot be repaired once it goes above 100% durability, so that a crafter can only repair a person's gear once.
    And if they refuse to let someone repair their gear, they're being a nuisance to the party and would likely come under harassment. Kick and move on. Someone who genuinely forgot to repair their gear will accept it, move on no problems. But if they're refusing to allow someone to repair their gear and you force it on them, they'll just troll in other ways and you'll end up having to kick anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    that is a rude way to go about it. I would have called you an E too. Just saying, try to be nicer next time rather then a jerk. Way you went about it put them on the spot causing them to get defensive.
    And then how do you approach it? No matter how you say it, someone is gonna take offence. I try to be nice about things myself but eventually you're going to hit the "Political Correctness Gone Mad" syndrome.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    when you don't know why their gear was broke. Or if the queue pop'ed before they could repair.

    Asking questions helps.
    See earlier point, doesn't matter if you ask questions in the nicest possible way, someone will take offence to it and call you an E. Again, you run the risk of having political correctness gone mad. Could she have phrased it better? Sure. But she clearly explained what she thought was the issue. That doesn't warrant being called an elitist.
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    Last edited by Paladinleeds; 11-10-2017 at 02:19 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.