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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
    And just so people can't refuse to let others repair their gear (in case of trolls), make it so that crafters can force-repairs on others. I also know this sounds like it could be abused to steal others' gil, so to prevent this, make it so that gear cannot be repaired once it goes above 100% durability, so that a crafter can only repair a person's gear once.
    And if they refuse to let someone repair their gear, they're being a nuisance to the party and would likely come under harassment. Kick and move on. Someone who genuinely forgot to repair their gear will accept it, move on no problems. But if they're refusing to allow someone to repair their gear and you force it on them, they'll just troll in other ways and you'll end up having to kick anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    that is a rude way to go about it. I would have called you an E too. Just saying, try to be nicer next time rather then a jerk. Way you went about it put them on the spot causing them to get defensive.
    And then how do you approach it? No matter how you say it, someone is gonna take offence. I try to be nice about things myself but eventually you're going to hit the "Political Correctness Gone Mad" syndrome.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    when you don't know why their gear was broke. Or if the queue pop'ed before they could repair.

    Asking questions helps.
    See earlier point, doesn't matter if you ask questions in the nicest possible way, someone will take offence to it and call you an E. Again, you run the risk of having political correctness gone mad. Could she have phrased it better? Sure. But she clearly explained what she thought was the issue. That doesn't warrant being called an elitist.
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    Last edited by Paladinleeds; 11-10-2017 at 02:19 AM.
    White Mage ~ Sage ~ Astrologian
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    InkstainedGwyn's Avatar
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    Souji Hanamura
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    If they can prevent you from going in under a certain ilvl, and they can stop you from accepting the queue because you're on a different class, then they can implement something to not allow ppl with broken (or near-broken) gear to enter. The game already calculates the %wear. The data is already there, as are the parsing abilities.

    I wouldn't be sure it's not a troll, though. Had an entire alliance (minus one confused ninja) in Rabanastre last week that were all on base classes, clogged the alliance chat, and quit en masse (minus the even-more-confused ninja) after first boss. Some people get kicks out of doing the stupidest stuff.
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    Aishwarya Vaishnavi
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    [3) Put a repair NPC at the start of every dungeon. Lore wise, this makes 0 sense. Probably a better option still compared to #1 and #2.]

    Except that they already put Novice NPCs outside the entrances to some of the dungeons. I'm sure they could find some way to make it lore friendly.

    Also I messed up the quote tag, I'm on a phone and too lazy to fix it properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by odie View Post
    [3) Put a repair NPC at the start of every dungeon. Lore wise, this makes 0 sense. Probably a better option still compared to #1 and #2.]

    Except that they already put Novice NPCs outside the entrances to some of the dungeons. I'm sure they could find some way to make it lore friendly.

    Also I messed up the quote tag, I'm on a phone and too lazy to fix it properly.
    Forget lore. That screws over a bonus crafters get. You can queue for a dungeon anywhere for free and just do it. Unsynced too so you don't get penalty.

    How about just let crafters repair other people's gear.
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    Vote kick and on to the next!
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    You can't do anything about people being jerks. They're gonna be jerks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    snip.
    It depends on the situation which obviously differs on a case by case basis. However, in this specific situation, it's very doable to put in a system that prevents what happened in my situation and it's about time they started working on something, anything and no VTK is not a long-term solution to this problem because it should be happening to start with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selova View Post
    It depends on the situation which obviously differs on a case by case basis. However, in this specific situation, it's very doable to put in a system that prevents what happened in my situation and it's about time they started working on something, anything and no VTK is not a long-term solution to this problem because it should be happening to start with.
    OK.. so lets look at this then.
    Someone queued and either forgot or just did not want to repair their items. They got the warning but ignored it , possibly because since they were the healer it was an instaque.
    You, reasonably politely asked about their gear state and were told you were elitist. ..... The fact you didn't kick them right there and then is admirable, but foolish. If someones reaction to you is first and foremost hostility and unwillingness to do something about it if possible, what can you really do? This isn't the system. This is the person. What would you do if someone queued with perfectly serviceable and repaired gear but swapped to broken stuff afterwards (for the challenge or whatever) ?
    In my opinion the system is fine how it is. We have the tools to remove disruptive players and for someone who is actually concerned with being a contributing player the warnings are there. It's neither inconvenient nor expensive to hit a repair NPC reasonably often. They are everywhere.
    What if I don't want to repair my gear to full before every queue? or even lower %? I have all my crafting at max, why should I not get the most out of my darkmatter and repair at 10% damage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I have all my crafting at max, why should I not get the most out of my darkmatter and repair at 10% damage?
    You do know that Dark Matter repairs add 100% durability to your gear, right? It doesn't set it to 100%. If your gear was at 10% durability, repairing it with Dark Matter would make it 110%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
    You do know that Dark Matter repairs add 100% durability to your gear, right? It doesn't set it to 100%. If your gear was at 10% durability, repairing it with Dark Matter would make it 110%.
    Wasn't aware it "overcharged" it. Honestly haven't used that feature much since I responsibly repair as often as I can at the NPC =] .. the other points still stand though.
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