Warriors need MORE damage

[konpachizaraki]

considering paladin is basically a warrior with much better utility,better mitigation and the only thing stopping people from going double PLD in raid is LB penalty then yeah i say they need some buff in their damage
like buffing fell cleave damage or making inner release 60 seconds cooldown instead of 120 seconds

[Claire_Pendragon]

Warrior damage is base off off rng https://www.mooglemedia.com/releasin...w-xenosys-vex/ this interview frim xenosys-vex explains why

This sounds like an actual legit issue.
While RNG is RNG.
DRK getting the same level of RNG wont lead to as high of numbers.
but if we look at the average from all 3 tanks, w/o RNG, then we get a different picture.
(It wont be drastic, but its still a difference, as ppl are comparing the highest DPS done, not the average)

[Dio_Tiferet]

Should have known the WAR crybabies would come out of the woodworks sooner or later demanding more unreasonable buffs for a class thats pretty much on par with PLD.

Taking actual numbers and statistics into consideration DRK is the only class that has a clear gap inbetween the tanks and its still viable.

TLDR; War players crying for no reason convinced they are a DPS class while they are not.

[Erin_Singh]

Having dps based on rng is bad, however, I don't think many warriors would want that to change. More reliable damage output needs to be balanced by a dps nerf. You can't do 100+ dps (or 200+ if you buff it) everytime. War's dps would be still be ahead of paladin, but it would be less noticeable. I'm no math expert, but I think nerfing fell cleave or berserk, and buffing the rest would make war less dependent to their berserk windows (which is still not great, the job would take a hit on identity)

[konpachizaraki]

Should have known the WAR crybabies would come out of the woodworks sooner or later demanding more unreasonable buffs for a class thats pretty much on par with PLD.

Taking actual numbers and statistics into consideration DRK is the only class that has a clear gap inbetween the tanks and its still viable.

TLDR; War players crying for no reason convinced they are a DPS class while they are not.

can you tell me in what world warrior is equal to paladin? oh right in a world where PLD players don't want other tank to be as good as them so they can get that sweet guaranteed raid spot
#pathetic

[jameseoakes]

can you tell me in what world warrior is equal to paladin? oh right in a world where PLD players don't want other tank to be as good as them so they can get that sweet guaranteed raid spot
#pathetic

Stormblood paladin is no where near as broken as the warrior was in Heavansward

[Dio_Tiferet]

can you tell me in what world warrior is equal to paladin? oh right in a world where PLD players don't want other tank to be as good as them so they can get that sweet guaranteed raid spot
#pathetic

The difference in PLD and WAR right now is minuscule you are just looking for a reason to have WAR returned to 3.0 status where it was completely broken.

That being said i do think PLD dps is a bit excessive considering their toolset and ease of use but WAR is still in a good spot and the only tank with slashing debuff on them not to mention the most powerful personal mitigation.

Look at the total picture before you start demanding selfish biased buffs especially if those buffs are related to dps because in that case your interests are definitely not in the right place.

[SyzzleSpark]

Kind WAR sirs,

Would it be okay, would it be acceptable, if SE fixed some of the problems with DRK first before WAR gets its 3rd major buff in an expansion that isn't even half a year old yet?

[DaulBan]

Kind WAR sirs,

Would it be okay, would it be acceptable, if SE fixed some of the problems with DRK first before WAR gets its 3rd major buff in an expansion that isn't even half a year old yet?

I'd like to believe that class changes aren't a 0-sum game. If you really believe that SE can only balance one job at a time I think you should probably mosey on over to the DPS subforum where people playing MNK are hoping for some balance changes, I think their one thread might threaten almost literally every thread on this subforum in the past four weeks.

[konpachizaraki]

Stormblood paladin is no where near as broken as the warrior was in Heavansward

no way, heavensward warrior never had the amount of utility current PLD have while still able to compete in dealing the highest damage at the same time.
stormblood paladin is better than heavensward warrior,even if somehow SE changed warrior design back like 3.x with addition of 4.x skills the current PLD design will still outshine them