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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
    It would stand to reason that if one DRK clears UCOB, another DRK might do the same. Not sure what this proves. Thanks for the drive-by attempt to discredit the thread though.
    One server first clear might be a fluke.

    Several server first clears suggests there might be more to it than people are claiming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    One server first clear might be a fluke.

    Several server first clears suggests there might be more to it than people are claiming.
    That some people love Dark Knight as their main despite its faults? I wonder what these magical heroes would say if asked whether they think Dark Knight needs some work done. I think I can guess the answer, and it's different than what the community's gut reaction is imposing onto them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdegarde View Post
    That some people love Dark Knight as their main despite its faults? I wonder what these magical heroes would say if asked whether they think Dark Knight needs some work done. I think I can guess the answer, and it's different than what the community's gut reaction is imposing onto them.
    I'm not saying DRK doesn't need a little love from the devs.

    But I am implying that some of the more... extreme opinions might not be giving credit where credit is due. (And this applies to people that might refuse to take a DRK, not just DRK players).
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
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    I was surprised for a moment, and then I saw that it was Raffter.
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    The obvious question is, "Why would two world first groups use the 'weakest' tank in the 'hardest' content?"

    Is there an obvious answer? I don't think so.
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    Gulvioir Muruc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argyle_Darkheart View Post
    The obvious question is, "Why would two world first groups use the 'weakest' tank in the 'hardest' content?"

    Is there an obvious answer? I don't think so.
    Well the WF answered. They said they ran because they liked the way the class played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argyle_Darkheart View Post
    The obvious question is, "Why would two world first groups use the 'weakest' tank in the 'hardest' content?"

    Is there an obvious answer? I don't think so.
    For the same reason Angered initially ran Samurai then Monk when Dragoon/Ninja is clearly more optimal. They found it fun. Yes, Monk helped with Mantra, but at the same time, unless fights have an incredibly high DPS check, comp won't have a significant impact unless you're speed killing.
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    Moku Satsu
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    If evrything is ok whit DRK then we would not see numbers like this in fflogs.
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    Mute Shellback
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliroth-Kaminari View Post
    If evrything is ok whit DRK then we would not see numbers like this in fflogs.
    From what fights has this data been gathered?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    From what fights has this data been gathered?
    Neo. No matter than percentile average, Dark Knight represents only 22% of uploaded parses. Now this isn't a full proof metric. Samurai, for instance, has high upload totals despite slowly losing its foothold while Machinist is the lowest despite being meta. Still, it's far better than looking at a WF clear and assuming everything is fine.
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