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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Sage Lv 90

    With the sprint changes, what is the point of Fist of Wind?

    Topic.

    Basically, monk stances are useless outside of Fist of Fire.

    Fist of Wind needs to be changed to attack speed.
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    SpeckledBurd's Avatar
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    K'ahli K'uhla'tor
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    Balmung
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    Monk Lv 100
    There isn't one.

    But there was hardly a point to it even when we couldn't count on sprint, the devs just didn't want to put any time toward reworking Monk when it was arguably the job that needed it the most.
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    NovaLevossida's Avatar
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    Kaiser Sturmwind
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    The wanted to double down on tackle mastery's "usefulness" I guess.
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    They didn't want to remove it cause it has arguably the best animation of all the stances
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    Last edited by Silver-Strider; 11-06-2017 at 11:07 PM.

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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Viper Lv 100
    Getting around Rhalgr's Reach *slightly* faster, but not as fast as if you just switched jobs to ninja while getting around.

    I used all three stances in prog during Alexander and Sophia, so I can't say that Fists of Earth and Fists of Wind are "useless". Consider jump phases that end in party-wide damage, like the jump in Susano EX after the swords... being in Fists of Earth when that attack hits is good, as is any other time you're about to take targeted damage. Fists of Wind was good when learning fights that require specific positioning or you to be in certain places to avoid mechanics, especially if sprint has already been used as is on cool down, but that's arguably something that you wouldn't need once you have a fight down. However, I would like to see Fists of Wind just moved to a passive trait. There's no reason that they can't just give monks increased movement speed considering they have to move more than any other job already.
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    Wynne Yilmaz
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    Getting around Rhalgr's Reach *slightly* faster, but not as fast as if you just switched jobs to ninja while getting around.
    You can just ride your mount in Rhalgr's Reach.
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    I was the Almighty Enkidu for April Fools 2017.

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    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.

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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    It's useless.
    Just like Riddle of wind, earth and wind tackle, one Ilm punch and, debatably, Arm of the Destroyer.

    I like how Monk was one of the jobs that needed the most useless skills taken away from them, but instead they had actual useful ones taken and kept all the bad stuff.
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    wereotter's Avatar
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by magnanimousCynic View Post
    You can just ride your mount in Rhalgr's Reach.
    True. Getting around Kugane, then
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    Joe Ultima
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    Coeurl
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    Rogue Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Topic.

    Basically, monk stances are useless outside of Fist of Fire.

    Fist of Wind needs to be changed to attack speed.
    Monk has Greased Lightning for Attack Speed, so that change would be pointless.
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    Guildmaster of Power With Numbers (PWN) on Coeurl in Aether.

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    Sylvestre Solscribe
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 90
    What's the point of making it As, you'll just pick the highest dps option anyway
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