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    Magnedeus's Avatar
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    Arngrim Lightheart
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    Zalera
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    Gladiator Lv 80

    Has anyone ever told you how to do your job in a negative way?

    Now I\\'m not trying to start any bs in the forums, it\\'s just a question. Sometimes we get friendly people trying to help and give tips on how to make your class easier. And sometimes we get the jerks that do things differently from you and have to criticize you on your performance and start an unnecessary argument. I\\'m putting this in the tank forum because i was recently tanking Kugane castle. My gear is decent (mostly ilvl 310 gear. Haven\\'t gotten to new stuff yet.) And one of the dps kept criticizing me on the way i do things, pulling rotation ect. I obviously ignored him the entire run and got 2 commendations at the end from the heals and other dps I\\'m assuming. I don\\'t know if he was trolling or just being plain rude, but has anyone ever told you how to play your class in a negative way despite the fact you know what you\\'re doing?
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    Dippin' Dots
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    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Not personally no. Quite frankly, I could care less if people are mean or not so long as they are correct in everything they say to another player.
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    Ziero Rehw-bidit
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    Malboro
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by dotsforlife View Post
    Not personally no. Quite frankly, I could care less if people are mean or not so long as they are correct in everything they say to another player.
    if you could care less, then it means you care. Anyways, you mean to say you couldn't care less. There you go, now you can tell people someone told you how to do something right.
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I'm usualyl open to criticisms because I know I'm not optimized in the way I tank. I'm not always trying to go into Sword Oath for that DPS, and I'm not always versed with the encounter that I can time my cooldowns with my eyes closed. I pay more attention to positioning, to providing melee DPS with a stable mob formation, and providing ranged and magic DPS with a tight mob formation.

    Personally since I play on the JP data center, I've never got any negative remarks, although I know I have definite room for improvement on my tanking dps; which, by the way, is one of the main reasons I main DPS now and only use my tank when friends need it, seeing how I'm not a properly performing tank in the FFXIV world. If I'm gonna be worried about my dps all the time, I might as well do it right and play a DPS job.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

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    Dippin' Dots
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hierro View Post
    if you could care less, then it means you care. Anyways, you mean to say you couldn't care less. There you go, now you can tell people someone told you how to do something right.
    Actually, both phrases are correct. Thanks for caring though!
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    Wolf Spyder
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    Siren
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    What's up with the \\ ? Git gud.
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    Chaosgrimm Winsock
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jas710 View Post
    What's up with the \\ ? Git gud.
    This is a problem with the mobile site, likely associated with escape characters.

    The ' gets replaced with \\' on the mobile version of the site when asked to edit your message when the char limit has been exceeded.
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    Last edited by winsock; 10-29-2017 at 10:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dotsforlife View Post
    Not personally no. Quite frankly, I could care less if people are mean or not so long as they are correct in everything they say to another player.
    Sort of confused here, are you saying that you care a little if people are mean, but if the the information they have is correct you are okay with them being mean? Even though on some level it bothers you?

    If that is the case that seems a tad messed up.
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    Last edited by Awha; 10-30-2017 at 01:08 AM.

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    Lynn Nuvestrahl
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    Moogle
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Sort of confused here, are you saying that you care a little if people are mean, but if the the information they have is correct you are okay with them being mean? Even though on some level it bothers you?

    If that is the case that seems a tad messed up.
    If the delivery prevents you from taking in good advice, that's even more messed up. You have to be able to separate the good from the bad, ignore the vitriol and take the bits of information that make sense.
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    If the delivery prevents you from taking in good advice, that's even more messed up.
    That's actually fairly normal behavior. You have to get conditioned to 'not' let the delivery affect you and there are communication courses that exist precisely to develop that skill, because it can be a very useful one if you're working in a rough environment like the military.

    Some people will have that skill naturally, but most won't.
    Or differently put, if you follow the four-side model of communication, the receiver receives a strong, negative message on the relationship layer that speaks so loud the receiver can't hear the matter level the sender stressed over it. And with that, the appeal layer is unlikely to achieve results.
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