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    Dear RedMages

    When in dealing with Groups of mobs the Red mage was given a move (actually 3 but I'm going to keep this simple for the benefit of the general public)

    It's Called Scatter.

    in groups of mobs your not meant to be focusing on building up balance really quickly your meant to be aoeing

    Scatter has a 25% chance to proc and even more powerful scatter upon hit.

    Plus after the first scatter the second scatter is instant because of dual cast

    So please when facing groups of mobs if you truly can't be bothered to learn anything about your class. please just press scatter over and over again. It's easy and very hard to mess up and takes less effort than building up balance on one of the many tank's target. plus it makes it a lot easier for the tank to keep hate

    and most of all you do more dps.

    so please it's 1 button. just keep pressing it. Classes like sam have to 5 buttons correctly to aoe well.

    you just have 1. please try
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    Sadly, the people you are talking to most likely do not participate on the forums, or probably even knows it exists.
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    Its not as simple as scatter for 3 mobs. Its:

    3 Mobs: Scatter and alternate between VerAero and VerThunder to quickly build Black and white mana.

    4 Mobs: Spam Scatter.

    I like to alternate between using Embolden for one pull and Manafiction for the next.

    Moulinet is what you spend your black and white mana on for a pay off on 3+ pulls. Your goal, when you plan on using manafiction is to get mana to:

    15, 30, 45 or 75.

    15 + manafiction = 1 Moulinet
    30 + manafiction = 2 Moulinet
    45 + manafiction = 3 Moulinet
    75 + Manafiction = 4 Moulinet (use 1 then manafiction)



    So it is wrong to say just scatter at 3... You should say: "Just scatter at 4."
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    Quote Originally Posted by virgil204 View Post
    Scatter has a 25% chance to proc and even more powerful scatter upon hit.
    Just a minor nitpick... It's not more powerful in terms of damage, it just builds 8 white and black balance instead of just 3 of each.

    I do agree with your post in general though. Earlier tonight I ran a Skalla as a Scholar where we did full pulls, and the red mage did their single target rotation the entire way through. I'm glad that I had gone with Scholar instead of Astrologian since at least I had decent dps to partially make up for it and the resources to maintain healing for the looooong fights that lasted long past the tank's cooldowns.

    Quote Originally Posted by virgil204
    3 Mobs: Scatter and alternate between VerAero and VerThunder to quickly build Black and white mana.

    4 Mobs: Spam Scatter.
    This is the most efficient, yes, with the added caveat that for 3 targets if you have a proc'd Scatter use that instead of VerThunder or VerAero. A normal Scatter does the same damage vs. 3 targets as VerAero, VerThunder, or a proc'd Scatter, but gives only 6 balance compared to the 11 balance of the single target spells and the 16 balance of the proc'd Scatter.

    But even if all you do is Scatter Spam, the difference is not huge since it's only a difference of balance earned which might add up to one or maybe two extra Moulinet.
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    Dear Red Mages,

    You have an instant cast raise on every other spell. If both healers in your alliance are dead... please use it. T_T
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    i think its less about ignorance and more about it being extremely boring
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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggz View Post
    i think its less about ignorance and more about it being extremely boring
    So RDM who single target dps on groups of mobs are purposefully cutting their dps in half just to make it more interesting? That theory doesn't wash. There's ways to make the AoE more than just Scatter spam that don't tank your dps. E.g. cooldowns, saving balance to squeeze out extra moulinet via manafication, weaving with single target spells vs 3 mobs, etc.
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    Wait a minute you want RDM to use their AoE abilities but in your other post you say you don't want the tank to pull more than one pack of mobs :thinking:
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    OP is the next most likely to spam threads and get banned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    Wait a minute you want RDM to use their AoE abilities but in your other post you say you don't want the tank to pull more than one pack of mobs :thinking:
    quote in my post where I said I don't want tanks to pull more than one pack of mobs.

    I dare you quote me

    How does telling people not to pull a pack of 20 mobs mean that you are telling them to pull only 1 pack of mobs

    please explain you understanding of the English language
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