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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    I strongly beleive anyone (unless you started after the Shiro launch) has had a fair chance to own a house. Se put in a option to transfer servers....untill free transfers. if you wanted a house, there was plenty of servers with houses. it came down to a personal choice. 1 stay where no houses are or 2 pay and move to where houses are..
    Suggesting if people really wanted a house they would transfer servers is unreasonable. Its also contrary to why they insist on keeping non-instanced houses. "Want a house in the persistent, community encouraging wards? abandon your community to join a different one." Before Kugane I couldn't find a single empty plot in any town checking multiple times daily. I specifically roled on that server to be with friends and its not unreasonable to also want a house.

    If they aren't going to start instancing housing then any additional wards should be restricted to 1 house per server, per account. Or to put it another way, can only be purchased by 'homeless' accounts on that server. It keeps the current systems intact except for undesirable parts such has a extremely short supply and the ability to flip houses in the new areas. There is absolutely no reason to reject it unless someone is being a disingenuous sadist or wants a much better solution and refuses to settle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scardon View Post
    Suggesting if people really wanted a house they would transfer servers is unreasonable. Its also contrary to why they insist on keeping non-instanced houses. "Want a house in the persistent, community encouraging wards? abandon your community to join a different one." Before Kugane I couldn't find a single empty plot in any town checking multiple times daily. I specifically roled on that server to be with friends and its not unreasonable to also want a house.

    If they aren't going to start instancing housing then any additional wards should be restricted to 1 house per server, per account. Or to put it another way, can only be purchased by 'homeless' accounts on that server. It keeps the current systems intact except for undesirable parts such has a extremely short supply and the ability to flip houses in the new areas. There is absolutely no reason to reject it unless someone is being a disingenuous sadist or wants a much better solution and refuses to settle.
    Depens on your prioritys..if housing was in fact such a big deal...prior to the free transfer system there was 100's of empty plots all you had to do is go to them...you may consider it "Unreasonable" due to what ever your prioritys.. SE put in a option so in fact everyone did have a chcance they might not of like it ...but enough people used that option to transfer to balmug they had to totaly lock it down lol

    Im just saying pre free transfers there was a option for a house people may not of liked it but there was
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    Im just saying pre free transfers there was a option for a house people may not of liked it but there was
    Telling someone to pay for a server transfer is just as bad as telling someone to buy from a flipper. If you decided housing was worth the cost in cash and community fine. Some people don't mind paying flippers 50mil for a small plot either.

    Point is these are not choices people should be forced into. Folks should be able to get houses on the server where they have lived. Housing might be the most important thing to someone and yet they don't transfer because they don't want to leave friends behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keridwyn View Post
    Telling someone to pay for a server transfer is just as bad as telling someone to buy from a flipper. If you decided housing was worth the cost in cash and community fine. Some people don't mind paying flippers 50mil for a small plot either.

    Point is these are not choices people should be forced into. Folks should be able to get houses on the server where they have lived. Housing might be the most important thing to someone and yet they don't transfer because they don't want to leave friends behind.
    Both of us know this is so far from the truth..Transfering servers if offered thru Se its self...House flippers are in game people ripping other people off.

    Telling someone to use a option offered by the game dev is not even in the same ballpark as telling people to break tso (since can be banned for selling for high amounts)

    ad im not telling anyone i was simply saying that SE had provided a option like it or not it was a option to get a house legaly....Now if u dont wanna pay or leave friends thats on you but the option was still there to use legaly..untill the free transfers spread the house shortage to every single server
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    Depens on your prioritys..if housing was in fact such a big deal...prior to the free transfer system there was 100's of empty plots all you had to do is go to them...you may consider it "Unreasonable" due to what ever your prioritys.. SE put in a option so in fact everyone did have a chcance they might not of like it ...but enough people used that option to transfer to balmug they had to totaly lock it down lol

    Im just saying pre free transfers there was a option for a house people may not of liked it but there was
    Why should people have to pay $18 to leave their home server (or pay nothing at all, but still leave it, if moving to a preferred world) to get a house? That’s not a solution to the housing problem. People shouldn’t have to pay for a transfer or leave the server they consider home just to get a house. And it’s not about if “housing was in fact a big deal” or their “priorities” or not. I love my server; I’m not going to leave it and all of my friends to get a house that I will be sharing with...no one. Because I moved to a new server and know nobody! Sure, maybe some people have no connection to their server—they’re a loner, tend to play by themselves, don’t have many friends/only have acquaintances, etc.—but a lot of people that want houses DO have connections to their server. They have friends there; it’s their home.

    I shouldn’t have to leave my home to acquire a house. Nor should anybody else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Why should people have to pay $18 to leave their home server (or pay nothing at all, but still leave it, if moving to a preferred world) to get a house? That’s not a solution to the housing problem. People shouldn’t have to pay for a transfer or leave the server they consider home just to get a house. And it’s not about if “housing was in fact a big deal” or their “priorities” or not. I love my server; I’m not going to leave it and all of my friends to get a house that I will be sharing with...no one. Because I moved to a new server and know nobody! Sure, maybe some people have no connection to their server—they’re a loner, tend to play by themselves, don’t have many friends/only have acquaintances, etc.—but a lot of people that want houses DO have connections to their server. They have friends there; it’s their home.

    I shouldn’t have to leave my home to acquire a house. Nor should anybody else.
    Im not saying that any should have to all im saying is there was options if you really wanted a house like it or not it was a option.. lol The amount of people who had a problem with houses has like tripled since free transfers n shiro release going so bad.. its just now this big of a issue due to them 2 things...i agree totaly there should be at lest 1.5 x house more then the players on a server..

    And the reason i use that is cause of the tons of people who transfered to high pop servers.. payed to go to a place with no houses just to take a free ride to low pop and scream give me your house now...

    ive said it before i know people who owned houses..left there houses to go to balmug/Gil for the rp/raid stuff...came back with the free transfer and are yelling you must give up your houses cause im here now.. <---these people tick me off cause u had a house you left it for high pop
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