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    Why not instanced plots?

    I have read a lot of the threads on the housing situation with the idea of grandfathering to removal of the housing to those who have more than one house on the same account. As well the idea of instance housing, larger apartments, and FC only for Large and Medium.

    As to the those who do own multiple plots my thoughts on this why don’t they instance the plots instead allowing those who want two, three or more character s. While I am not a fan of grandfathering I would accept it as it is/were the rules at the time. That said if they created new wards each patch or had added wards when one filled up I wouldn’t have an issue with it at all.

    Again as to the instancing housing the instance plots would help to cut down on the felt need to those on the higher price account option to have more than one plot, and allow more plots to be had for all players. I like the idea of a community house rather than just an instance housing as the latter feels like it would be lonely.

    With the Larger apartments as long as I had a window or a balcony I would like that, even more so if I can use at least one garden plot on it.

    To the Large and Medium plots for FC only, I say no. I get the point but it doesn’t add anything besides space and you still get to use the workshop regardless. Plus if you have the gil, buy it you worked for it, and if they do instanced plots each of your characters can have their own house which would work for role players. Though for that thought I understand you may want one in Shirogane and the Mist given you have a reason for role playing (they should make role playing only servers for that anywho in my opinion, total different subject).

    Curious on what others think on instanced plots and possibly those who have more than one plot to lose their others and chose one they want instead (in the end you would get more garden plots to use as well as long as you had the level and quest requirements on the other characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerikai View Post
    Curious on what others think on instanced plots and possibly those who have more than one plot to lose their others and chose one they want instead (in the end you would get more garden plots to use as well as long as you had the level and quest requirements on the other characters.
    Ok my thoughts are pretty well known and a lot of people give me flack for it but meh.
    If they offerd instance housing for alts and only 1 main could keep a house in a ward that be fine as long as it was the same size and set up.i dont want a 1 room appartment.

    I come from a RP stand point my houses are 3 different homes each character has its own style and decor. Ive own 3 houses for over a year wile 100's sat free up till 3 months ago (or when ever it was) till the free transfer system kicked in and all plots were sold.......but for over a year no one hated me, well lest for owning 3 houses lol...

    now i got people from the forums making lvl1's alts sending me tells talking crap about my forum post. 4 times so far..shout out to the 1 person who made a alt and sat and talked with me for 20 agreeing there has to be a better solution then taking away houses from people who did nothing wrong

    what im against is taken away no matter what any thinks of the rule houses from people who did nothing wrong they followed the rules put in front of them plain and simple. im sorry SE hasn't added enough houses but thats on them. But because SE has did this free transfer causing this problem now on every server and who thought the grass was greener didn't get houses and up in arms..when its been the same for 3 years..............

    I'd love to know the number of new people to the forums since the shiro nightmare
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    now i got people from the forums making lvl1's alts sending me tells talking crap about my forum post. 4 times so far..shout out to the 1 person who made a alt and sat and talked with me for 20 agreeing there has to be a better solution then taking away houses from people who did nothing wrong

    I'd love to know the number of new people to the forums since the shiro nightmare
    That just fricking sad. Cause you done nothing wrong (i also have multible houses between my own FC + personal houses) I havn't broken any rules either.

    But that it ends up in harassment is just sad.
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    Again, I get the point of not taking away house, and I am not completely against nor would I completely mind you being grandfathered in. I am not mad at you more so SE. The current design, and intent of the community idea of housing doesn’t make much sense, again SEs fault.

    If there is anything I would have against you would be the lack of sharing, much like taking all the food at the dinner table. Though there is more fault on SE for just putting out scraps. Still I can’t I don’t have any frustration with anyone who owns more than one house. (FC house aside)

    What I am looking for are ways moving forward that can help those who want more houses, though given SE’s design and prior actions I doubt they’ll overhaul it that much. If they do especially with Instanced Housing or Dynamic wards being added with the idea of Instanced plots, much less frustration. I like the idea of the instanced housing as it would allow the same account to have 4,5,6 houses for your alts but leave open SE to better monetize their servers.

    As to breaking rules, I won’t say you have with the rules as they stand. Still things need to change on the housing front drastically not just 1 or 2 more wards per area. At this it just sounds like SE is no more than politician over promising and under delivering in the housing area.

    So in the end I have my intention is not to harass you rather come up with ideas to see if SE will listen (they likely won’t) to get a better housing situation at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerikai View Post
    Again, I get the point of not taking away house, and I am not completely against nor would I completely mind you being grandfathered in. I am not mad at you more so SE. The current design, and intent of the community idea of housing doesn’t make much sense, again SEs fault.

    If there is anything I would have against you would be the lack of sharing, much like taking all the food at the dinner table
    . Though there is more fault on SE for just putting out scraps. Still I can’t I don’t have any frustration with anyone who owns more than one house. (FC house aside)

    What I am looking for are ways moving forward that can help those who want more houses, though given SE’s design and prior actions I doubt they’ll overhaul it that much. If they do especially with Instanced Housing or Dynamic wards being added with the idea of Instanced plots, much less frustration. I like the idea of the instanced housing as it would allow the same account to have 4,5,6 houses for your alts but leave open SE to better monetize their servers.

    As to breaking rules, I won’t say you have with the rules as they stand. Still things need to change on the housing front drastically not just 1 or 2 more wards per area. At this it just sounds like SE is no more than politician over promising and under delivering in the housing area.

    So in the end I have my intention is not to harass you
    rather come up with ideas to see if SE will listen (they likely won’t) to get a better housing situation at all.
    The bold part i don't get..like i said ive owned my 3 houses for a year there was literly 200+ plots free on my server up to the day of free transfers (3 months ago).Anyone could of moved there and had housing. Everyone on the server who wanted a house had a house.i took from no one for a year............till people decided they no longer wanted to be on a crowded server and left theres for mine..i get there are high n med pop servers that had house problems.Mine how ever did not. So now that people have made there personal chose of there tired of there crowded server im going here.........all of a sudden i took food from them?? For what ive owned for a year before they got there ..........

    I strongly beleive anyone (unless you started after the Shiro launch) has had a fair chance to own a house. Se put in a option to transfer servers....untill free transfers. if you wanted a house, there was plenty of servers with houses. it came down to a personal choice. 1 stay where no houses are or 2 pay and move to where houses are..

    Oh i never said you were harrasing me nor ment that my post was in reply to what you asked for "Curious on what others think on instanced plots and possibly those who have more than one plot to lose their others and chose one they want instead" that all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    The bold part i don't get..like i said ive owned my 3 houses for a year there was literly 200+ plots free on my server up to the day of free transfers (3 months ago).Anyone could of moved there and had housing. Everyone on the server who wanted a house had a house.i took from no one for a year............till people decided they no longer wanted to be on a crowded server and left theres for mine..i get there are high n med pop servers that had house problems.Mine how ever did not. So now that people have made there personal chose of there tired of there crowded server im going here.........all of a sudden i took food from them?? For what ive owned for a year before they got there ..........
    Perhaps not the best analogy, just trying to express some feelings including what it looks like others feel. None the less it was about what you and others with multiple have now to what people want now and how one may view it without thinking/knowing how you got them.

    While in truth, as you stated in the past I could have moved if I was playing and got a house. (I haven’t played much due to work, a collapsed lung and a lot of other medical fun). Still would like to hear more from other multiple house owners to what they feel can be done to get more people in houses. Perhaps have an alliance raid SE HQ to make them do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    I strongly beleive anyone (unless you started after the Shiro launch) has had a fair chance to own a house. Se put in a option to transfer servers....untill free transfers. if you wanted a house, there was plenty of servers with houses. it came down to a personal choice. 1 stay where no houses are or 2 pay and move to where houses are..
    Suggesting if people really wanted a house they would transfer servers is unreasonable. Its also contrary to why they insist on keeping non-instanced houses. "Want a house in the persistent, community encouraging wards? abandon your community to join a different one." Before Kugane I couldn't find a single empty plot in any town checking multiple times daily. I specifically roled on that server to be with friends and its not unreasonable to also want a house.

    If they aren't going to start instancing housing then any additional wards should be restricted to 1 house per server, per account. Or to put it another way, can only be purchased by 'homeless' accounts on that server. It keeps the current systems intact except for undesirable parts such has a extremely short supply and the ability to flip houses in the new areas. There is absolutely no reason to reject it unless someone is being a disingenuous sadist or wants a much better solution and refuses to settle.
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    Why no instanced housing? Because wards are great. If I wanted instanced housing I would be playing the Sims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleSparrow View Post
    Why no instanced housing? Because wards are great. If I wanted instanced housing I would be playing the Sims.
    So great the overwhelming majority of players will never have houses because the hamster wheel servers can't handle it. Not to mention, the wards are dead. I have now been on two large servers (Balmung and Cactuar) and I saw my neighhours only a handful times. You may like the wards aesthetic, but I'd much prefer a server that doesn't screw over 90% of players.
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