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  1. #11
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    miraidensetsu's Avatar
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    Luno Belfi
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    Yep. Put that in FFXIV and watch how everyone stops playing them and letting them into groups.
    Don't know how community would react to something like that. But I think that it depends more on the balance than the job itself.

    But I don't feel like summoner is like traditional FF summoner. It feels more like a beastmaster for me.
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  2. #12
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    Shalashaska Greywolf
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    Ultros
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    Paladin Lv 70
    As a relatively new player, I too wish the summoner class was more summoner like. I assume it would take a lot to change the class to be like that at this point though so I don't see it happening.
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  3. #13
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Riko_Futatabi View Post
    Remember when we saw Egis' of Leviathan and Ramuh? Where are they?
    Well Ramuh's Egi is in The Striking Tree. I have no idea where you saw Leviathan's Egi, though.
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  4. #14
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    X'lantaa Lizhashen
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    It is not as simple as that. There are balance, test issues, problems with the scenario (it is not the same summon Ifrit who is relatively small, than Alexander or Leviathan, which are massive for a tiny scenario),coding each one. A lot of work. You must look also to the problem that consist on have a lot of summoner in a party or out-world. Imagine 40 summoners which their respective primal at the same time. Demi Bahamut is a low-detailed model of original Bahamut, it is not even the same model. It is not only about the models only, the work is massive for that feature and can cause more problems than benefic.

    Please, stop talk as if everything is easy to do. This is not "copy-paste primal and everything is done". What you ask is a massive work, for a very little thing. In the future probably will have more Demi-Primals, and that the way they should take.
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    Last edited by Xlantaa; 11-02-2017 at 05:29 AM.

  5. #15
    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Malina Loma
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by miraidensetsu View Post
    Don't know how community would react to something like that. But I think that it depends more on the balance than the job itself.

    But I don't feel like summoner is like traditional FF summoner. It feels more like a beastmaster for me.
    Because it's not the traditional Summoner. The devs already went through this. This SMN thing won't ever go away lol..
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  6. #16
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    Ast Eryut
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Two clarifications...

    1. Adding a button for 5 new primals can be done in 1 week. This doesn't require any work besides turning regular ifrit (not the egi) red like demi-bahamut, for example. This is not egi glamour so the concerns about blocking view in towns shouldn't be a cocern.

    2. Adding more demi primals requires 0 skills changes. They will auto attack and do a big attack at the end like demi-bahamut

    I do still like the idea of adding egi glamours to the regular egi but the main idea here is about adding more demis. Thank you to those who read/understood.
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  7. #17
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    Mature Rudlum
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Summoner is in a great place right now. As I suggested before is to get rid off Egis and make them all like bahamut. Pop for 15 seconds attacking and all sorts.
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  8. #18
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    Riko Futatabi
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    Excalibur
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    Summoner is in a great place right now. As I suggested before is to get rid off Egis and make them all like bahamut. Pop for 15 seconds attacking and all sorts.
    If it ends up being that, I would love to play Summoner. Like I said before, those Egis' are a turn off for me.

    Also, while it's nice for now this summoner "glam", I do find it rather sad they had to resort to doing such things. Being able to customize the look back to Carbuncle doesn't make me interested in playing the class at all. I have no problems with Carbuncles either, they should definitely be the Summoners default/main pet until you can summon something more "Primal" for a time.
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  9. #19
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    Arle Egress
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    Gilgamesh
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Summoner is fantasic the way it is, FINALLY. Stop trying to ruin it.

    From all your posts i've read OP you don't even play summoner. Why muck it up for the hoards of people that actually do, and happily, play the job right now?

    Maybe pet classes aren't for you OP. Or maybe this pet class isn't for you. Every summoner I know in game is incredibly happy with how Summoner works right now.
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    Last edited by Youkulm; 11-02-2017 at 08:07 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hundred View Post
    These forums are so melodramatic I feel like I'm watching a latin soap opera.
    Any moment now it will be revealed that WHM is cheating on SCH with MNK after having had DRG's baby and DRG is WHM's cousin who is already married to PLD.

  10. #20
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    Marcellus Cassius
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Dunno, I feel xi did summoner well, each primal is summoned for a special attack and that's it. There is no need to balance the 3 pet roles because there are none.
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