Please give AST an instant cast damage spell

[IllyaPrisma]

Right now, I'm forced to use Lightspeed in my opener to have everything up before trick without clipping. I was thinking that if AST were to receive a version of Stella back at something like 180-190 potency or something, that was instant cast, it would greatly solve the clipping problem the job has overall. Most of their OGCD require at least 2 animations or 2 uses: Draw/Use, Draw/Minor/Use, Draw/Spread, Lucid/CO and so on. Their only free spot at the moment is Combust II every 30 seconds. Aspected Benefic can be used for weaving, but only when the tank requires health (and depends on the Sect). This is just something I feel would make the job much smoother overall.

[MintnHoney]

Most arguments which compel for the addition of DPS abilities for AST would be angrily flared upon by the forums due to ASTs ability to chaotically buff the DPS potential of the party. Further, most will also point out and sneer due to the possibility of Minor Arcana as a DPS tool.

That being said, having something that's not quite so random would be nice, but in lieu of that, I'd personally rather they bring the PvP version of Minor Arcana to PvE.

[Risvertasashi]

Further, most will also point out and sneer due to the possibility of Minor Arcana as a DPS tool.

Minor Arcana is oGCD; sounds like the OP wants a GCD instant.

But, I mean, despite the tone of your post a point would remain: Would other healers get a GCD instant besides 1 DoT? Why exactly should only AST get that, and not the other healers?

Giving such a tool to any healer is a very significant buff.

[basketofseals]

They could always make break instant cast. It's a pretty worthless skill at the moment.

[Ghishlain]

They could always make break instant cast. It's a pretty worthless skill at the moment.

I actually kinda really like this, the ability to weave at the cost of a cross role. Would at least make the selection more interesting.

[IllyaPrisma]

Why exactly should only AST get that, and not the other healers?

I hope you realize SCH received this in the form of Miasma II, and already had Ruin II if necessary. WHM has significantly less OGCD to weave than AST, and so does SCH for that matter. WHM also gets a window for weaving every 18 seconds, compared to AST who gets one every 30 seconds. The job as a whole should be able to function smoothly without always (literally always) needing to clip. It's not meant to act as a "significant buff" when the burst hit is lower than Malefic III, but since you said it, Miasma II was a significant increase to SCHs damage. SOOOO your question should not be "why only AST get that?" when SCH already has it.

[Risvertasashi]

I hope you realize SCH received this in the form of Miasma II, and already had Ruin II if necessary. WHM has significantly less OGCD to weave than AST, and so does SCH for that matter. WHM also gets a window for weaving every 18 seconds, compared to AST who gets one every 30 seconds. The job as a whole should be able to function smoothly without always (literally always) needing to clip. It's not meant to act as a "significant buff" when the burst hit is lower than Malefic III, but since you said it, Miasma II was a significant increase to SCHs damage. SOOOO your question should not be "why only AST get that?" when SCH already has it.

Ruin II and Miasma II are 100 potency. M2 is a short range pbaoe, limiting its actual use for movement/weave casting. Moreover, SCH does not have an instant shield/regen a la AST and WHM.

Also have to disagree, SCH has very substantial oGCD weaving. Lustrate/ED are 3 things you need to weave right there. WHM has less, but it still clips. You can't wait for aero 2 every time you need to pop an oGCD.

[Rawrz]

I hope you realize SCH received this in the form of Miasma II, and already had Ruin II if necessary. WHM has significantly less OGCD to weave than AST, and so does SCH for that matter. WHM also gets a window for weaving every 18 seconds, compared to AST who gets one every 30 seconds. The job as a whole should be able to function smoothly without always (literally always) needing to clip. It's not meant to act as a "significant buff" when the burst hit is lower than Malefic III, but since you said it, Miasma II was a significant increase to SCHs damage. SOOOO your question should not be "why only AST get that?" when SCH already has it.

AST always gets the low MP cost treatment. They are SPECSHIAL in their own right. Yes, it does suck that you have to clip the GCD every time you want to use your cards, but honestly you have so many short OGCD interactions (draw, spread, RR, Shuffle, arcana etc.) that you can't really expect to get SUCH A HIGH POTENCY GCD skill. I could see giving stella or break an instant cast 100 potency to be tied with ruin II, but thats it really. It would need a decent MP cost though, since it adds heavy.

ON THE NOTE OF SCH: Miasma II is both restrictive and MP drain from hell. WIth this logic, SCHs make a thread that says "SCH needs an instant cast GCD heal. Something like 350-500 potency, so that we can weave and heal, because WHM gets Regen and AST gets Aspected benefic."

[Risvertasashi]

I could see giving stella or break an instant cast 100 potency to be tied with ruin II, but thats it really. It would need a decent MP cost though, since it adds heavy.

While more reasonable, I still don't think it's particularly reasonable. This isn't a QoL change, it's a hard buff. To a class that's already performing very strongly.

[MintnHoney]

But, I mean, despite the tone of your post a point would remain: Would other healers get a GCD instant besides 1 DoT? Why exactly should only AST get that, and not the other healers?

It's good to see that the "tone" of my post wasn't misplaced.
To be clear, you're not trying to imply that all of the healer jobs only have 1 GCD DoT available to them, right?

ON THE NOTE OF SCH: Miasma II is both restrictive and MP drain from hell. WIth this logic, SCHs make a thread that says "SCH needs an instant cast GCD heal. Something like 350-500 potency, so that we can weave and heal, because WHM gets Regen and AST gets Aspected benefic."

I see your point, but I think your request would have been better if you said SCH needed a hard CC of some kind because AST has a 2m CD stun and WHM can spam Holy, because at least that's something SCH truly lacks compared to the other two jobs. To my knowledge, anyway.

About Sch's Miasma II: MP drainage is kind of something that happens across the board for all healer AoE attack spells and therefore not exactly something to be thrown out as if it were something uniquely cumbersome to the job (well, ok, Aero III is sort of an exception). If we really want to split hairs, Miasma II is actually less of an MP cost than Gravity, and since the DoT is required to fully realize the spells damage potential, it's inadvisable to spam it.
It's an.. interesting decision to make it centered around the SCH, however that's the same logic that seemed to have been thrown from WHM AoE Stun into AST AoE Stun (but at least you can spam your AoE, if you so choose (though I wouldn't recommend it)).

...Anyway, I don't really think WHM has any instant cast attack spells either, right? I think the instant cast GCDs are strictly SCH territory, but I can't see why an OGCD would be so off-limits, role-ability or otherwise. But I couldn't see it being much stronger, if at all, than Ruin 2. I suppose a weaker Ruin 2 -like spell would be something, but then, at 100 potency, anything less than that, who's really touching that? Thus, I think, if we're trying to add in additional decisions to an already decision-intensive job, bringing more to the Minor Arcana would be the best way to go so that we're not just introducing more spells to jobs.