Dear Ranged Dps

[Bixillarla]

I don't know why tanks still feel the need to sit back and let people die if they pull a little more, intentional or not. It's just slowing the run even more than your slow playstyle was already.

Not everyone is comfortable with speed running. Let the tank pull and set the pace they are comfortable with. If you don't like the speed of the run then you are free to leave and find one that suits you.

If you want to set the pace then tank yourself.

I do the same thing, if DPS pulls ahead of me I will tell once to let me pull, they pull again then they tank what they pull.

[popotaro]

Enigma is that you?

Dat made my day x)

[SenorPatty]

I don't know why tanks still feel the need to sit back and let people die if they pull a little more, intentional or not. It's just slowing the run even more than your slow playstyle was already.

If anyone else pull, I pick it up. Once we kill the mobs, I let the person know not to do it again.
Now if they do it again, that's not my problem anymore and I let them die.

[White_Wolf_X]

Dear virgil204, stop making threads.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

Not everyone is comfortable with speed running. Let the tank pull and set the pace they are comfortable with. If you don't like the speed of the run then you are free to leave and find one that suits you.

If you want to set the pace then tank yourself.

Everyone should work together to make a run as painless a possible, even if that means stepping out of your comfort zone for a while.

I understand if a tank doesn't like large pulling (it's not speed running), but if everyone else in your party desires it, then you adapt. This idea that tank is the sole pace setter is so silly. If you want to play leader, run with 3 of your friends and have them deal with you or something. Other tanks that are good at their role will be flexible enough to adapt to their parties needs.
Back when actually speedrunning Wanderer's Palace was a thing, and it was actually hard to heal, I didn't give up and force smaller pulls. I adapted.

Of course, if you can't large pull as a result of you simply not being able to handle it, rather than some stubborn idea that you can do what you want, that's different. Totally understandable. But if you can, and your party wants bigger pulls, then give it to them.

Dungeon running is a team effort, you can't go in thinking you'll play how you want no matter what anyone says.

(This post isn't directed at you, but Tanks in general)

[Berethos]

Enigma is that you?

Not enough RANDOM capslock.

When did you play WoW the last time? NOT EVEN ON RAIDBOSSES you give the Tank 5+ Seconds.

Yeah, I don't think that's been a thing since...BC? Maybe even Classic, back when you were supposed to wait til 5 Sunders or some such before starting to DPS. Threat management hasn't been a thing in that game for a while.

[Nirokun]

My reaction is simple and consistent. I WILL LET YOU DIE.

I will summon titan, enkindle (his big hate move), lucid dreaming, and sustain. While he tanks for our party, I will initiate a vote kick for "playstyle differences".

Besides, I would rather die and reset to start the vote kick and wait for a better tank. My titan-egi can pull slowly just as good as you, but at least he has a reason, he can't learn to do better. You're just refusing to do better, and I'd rather not support you, go find another party for that lazy gameplay.

[virgil204]

I will summon titan, enkindle (his big hate move), lucid dreaming, and sustain. While he tanks for our party, I will initiate a vote kick for "playstyle differences".

Besides, I would rather die and reset to start the vote kick and wait for a better tank. My titan-egi can pull slowly just as good as you, but at least he has a reason, he can't learn to do better. You're just refusing to do better, and I'd rather not support you, go find another party for that lazy gameplay.

Oh no I'm really scared.

[FaileExperiment]

In FFXI and WoW the rule was simple.

Not totally true. When I played WoW (years and years ago), Hunters were arguably as good and sometimes a better choice to pull. This was owing to the Hunter class' extreme range, ability to see enemies on their minimap, how the ice trap cc worked and ability to mark a target. When they added misdirection, it was even more so. Of course, I don't know how things changed after burning crusade, but when I played it was 50/50 if a tank pulled when they had a Hunter in the group.

Of course the 5-10 second tank grace period was basically a rule. However in FFXIV I find it less so. I don't commonly run into a tank that needs it unless they are new or there's a level/gear mismatch with the party.

[dotsforlife]

Sounds like a case of git gud op. Stop spamming the General forum (at least throw this trash in the right forum).