Dear Tanks

[whiskeybravo]

Well, OP dropped out of this conversation a while ago. But I'll leave this here for posterity.

1. You are a human being. you are not tough or brave cos you run in 20 mobs and cause your group to run in after you. Even if you could do that in real life most real life army soliders would call you dumb not brave

First off, it's Final Fantasy - not Final Reality. We are not human beings, we are Warriors of Light. We're not playing a war simulator. It's a fantasy themed MMORPG. And we play the role of a badass.

you don't save anytime at all by pulling 20mobs at the same time. you just put your group in danger. Like you have explained there are many factors here required to make this 20mobs mass pulling work.

Please show me in what dungeon there are even 20 mobs to pull. Formidable mobs, that is, not paltry add spawns that will die after a few hits. Secondly, the only person in any real danger is the tank him/herself, as long as the tank is alive the group is in no danger unless you can't dodge giant orange circles on the ground. Which leads in to:

excuse me telling me running from does which are exploding every 1 sec isn't hard true.

However you're constantly running away. Hence your constantly not doing dps. No it's not hard but you spend a lot of time away from the mob so it's bad. simple

Whatever you're trying to say here.. I don't know. But I have absolutely zero problems dodging enemy aoes while keeping up aoe attacks. As another poster mentioned, the range is quite large for melee attacks, you don't have to stand in the mobs hitbox, or next to the mob, you can stand nearly a whole 5 yalms away, which is basically right at the edge of most aoes. At most you lose an auto-attack or 2. If you're honestly having that much of a problem dodging melee range aoe you should just re-roll a ranged dps. Cuz it ain't hard. And after running the same dungeons 100's of times, you really act surprised every time you see an aoe go out? If you've been playing for any length of time you should be very well informed about what mobs use aoe and when, and which ones don't.

Saying that there are so many aoe exploding which causes you to stop doing damage entirely:

It's is simply false and you know it

And lastly,

However I want to dispel the notion of what tanks and groups should do before the start of the dungeon.

Which is check gear of said players and group make up and adjust according.

I am very so sorry to inform you that I have played this game since Alpha of ARR and not 1 tank or healer I have ever come across has ever changed play style upon group or tank gear or make up.

This is somewhat true. I don't give a damn what dps or healers are wearing. Dungeon content is so easy it doesn't even matter. Furthermore, when I first got Sam to 70, I had all 300 or 310 gear, and still out-dps'd 90% of other dps I ran across in the DF. So checking gear doesn't really mean jack when it comes to determining a players capabilities. My old static co-tank runs expert dungeons on bard with me sometime, and he wears dungeon gear for spirit bonding to get materia. He puts out twice the dps of casual DF dps. In dungeon gear. So GTFO with this notion that looking at someones gear is gonna give you a good idea of how to plan on running the dungeon.

Sincerely,
Big pull tank