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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    I am that healer, and I ask tanks to pull everything because I'm bored outta my mind otherwise. Just pop your CDs competently and go be brave!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    I am that healer, and I ask tanks to pull everything because I'm bored outta my mind otherwise. Just pop your CDs competently and go be brave!
    Your adrenaline deficit is of no concern to anyone else in your party, contrary to what you may believe or was told by hangers-on. Healers who think this way are the ones I trust the least as a tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    Your adrenaline deficit is of no concern to anyone else in your party, contrary to what you may believe or was told by hangers-on. Healers who think this way are the ones I trust the least as a tank.
    So...why can't people just ask the tank to pull more? It's just a question to see if the group is okay with it?

    I don't get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    Your adrenaline deficit is of no concern to anyone else in your party, contrary to what you may believe or was told by hangers-on. Healers who think this way are the ones I trust the least as a tank.
    Nor is your conservative stance a concern of mine. Sorry I prefer actually healing than mindlessly spamming Stone IV whenever I have tanks pull just three mobs. And before you say otherwise, I have actually tested just how little you need to heal on small pulls. Kugane Castle may be the worst offender, where the DPS can tank small packs themselves. At least with large pulls, I have to think when it's safe to get off Holy for the stun so I can follow up an Aero III cast and still manage the tank's health. It's far more entertaining to play that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    So...why can't people just ask the tank to pull more? It's just a question to see if the group is okay with it?

    I don't get it.
    Right? I don't see why it would be a big deal. I guess some just hate the idea of large pulls.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 10-30-2017 at 06:32 PM.

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    2/10, I have faith that your next work will be alot better.
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    It's complex. If you have a SAM/BLM combo it's a waste not to pull big and let your dps go to town (assuming the dps know what they're doing). However, I do find that many tanks just aren't aware of how big they can pull, be it their own gear, their own skill, healer's gear and/or skill, or if you have two dps whose aoe isn't that grand, maybe you better not pull from boss to boss. A kind of low-level example, I can pull big in Brayflox if I see I have a BRD and a BLM. But I had two DRGs the one time so we took things nice and slow and just melted everything one by one because between them and our AST, our only AoE was if the dps split targets and AST spread their dots lmao.
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    sorry I play SAM. SAM does more dps when they can actually stay on the mob rather than running only over the place avoiding Aoes. It's a bad idea just to mass pull and I've seen it kill many a group unnecessarily

    you don't save anytime at all by pulling 20mobs at the same time. you just put your group in danger. Like you have explained there are many factors here required to make this 20mobs mass pulling work.

    General rule in life is the more factors required to make something work the higher chance it has to fail.

    so keep it simple in general. The fact is every tank thinks he has what it takes to make it work. I've seen this false statement on these forums before.
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    I'm a tank and I always check gear and class make up

    I've played this game since launch. I have yet to see one tank do that. It's a lie you guys make up to justify a bad habit. no one does.

    you simply charge in and ask everyone to pick up the pieces.
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    your interpretation of human attitudes is warped.

    I find this similar misguided interpretation of human attitudes very common with people who live on the internet
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    Quote Originally Posted by virgil204 View Post
    your interpretation of human attitudes is warped.

    I find this similar misguided interpretation of human attitudes very common with people who live on the internet
    Troll confirmed. Ciao!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    Troll confirmed. Ciao!
    typical. As suspected.

    anyone who disagrees with me is a troll.

    Point confirmed. Another warped internet community member

    in real life people who disagree with politely with you are called discussion partners on the internet what you do is hide your head in the sand and call them trolls

    As for my join date. Please ladies and gentlemen stop using join dates as undeniable proof of how long a person has been playing a game.

    I have used this trick to fool so many people in Internet forums is just getting boring.

    I had a pc account which I lost which had a level 60 nin and level 60 drk

    i.e I played ARR and Heavensward on it.
    please can we stop talking about behaviour patterns that no one does in game

    We know they don't exist

    we know we don't do them

    We know no one else does

    However when we try and have a conversation on the forums about dungeon behaviour
    these behaviour patterns are the focus point of the discussion.

    It makes no sense
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    Last edited by virgil204; 10-29-2017 at 09:00 PM. Reason: second half of post makes no sense after initial editing

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