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  1. #81
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Boo Box
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    If you don't like how Elezen look, why contemplate fantaing to an Elezen? They're not for you. Thats ok. They don't all have to be for everyone.

    Elezen are beanpoles. Thats arguably their most defining trait. Take away the lankiness and you are left with a hyur with long ears. Saying you'd want to be an Elezen if they weren't Elezen-like is as dumb as me saying, “man, I sure would love playing a lala if they were tall, scaly, and muscular” when I could instead play a race that fits an aesthetic I actually like.
    Or perhaps you could read comments for what they are - no one is asking for Elezen to suddenly grow scales, or for Lalas to turn into beanpoles. I've never seen people so rigidly opposed to the idea of adding more customization to our characters.
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  2. #82
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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhaneX View Post
    There is never going to be any form of update to the character creator.

    Get over it.
    Then people will never stop asking.

    Get over it.
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  3. #83
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    Olwen Mercier
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhaneX View Post
    There is never going to be any form of update to the character creator.

    Get over it.
    Well they add hair so that's an update to the creator.

    Demand seems moderate, and since the PS3 support has been dropped people can no longer use the excuse of not enough RAM (because most modern PCs have at least 8GB system RAM and at least 1GB of VRAM, and the PS4 has 8GB GDDR5 for the whole system. The PS3 had two sets of 256MB; one for the system and the other for the graphics memory respectively). People will insist on there being too much data in the packets being sent, which can be a legitimate issue and be a source of latency, but other MMOs have shown that they can have a more robust character creation and manage data well enough.

    Also I would personally love more character creation options. Might actually get me to use a fantasia if I can have choices to make my face less generic and maybe actually have a butt to /sit on.
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    Last edited by File2ish; 10-31-2017 at 06:11 PM.

  4. #84
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    Linu La'neral
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    More opportunity for customization are always a good thing.
    As long as the racial identity is preserved i am all for it.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Or perhaps you could read comments for what they are - no one is asking for Elezen to suddenly grow scales, or for Lalas to turn into beanpoles. I've never seen people so rigidly opposed to the idea of adding more customization to our characters.
    People in this thread have expressed that they want an elezen that doesn't have elongated limbs. Thats not an elezen. I don’t really care for lalas- super small super cute races aren’t my thing in video games. That said, I don’t see a point to petitioning SE to change lala’s physique. Just cause they don’t work for me doesn’t inherently mean they need “fixing”. It means they don’t work for me.

    I’d be fine with some pudge or more muscle sliders, but keeping a race’s defining features (elezen long limbs, au ra scales, lala garden gnome anatomy etc) is an absolute must. Without them me might as well all be playing hyurs.
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    Last edited by Rokke; 11-01-2017 at 01:24 AM.

  6. #86
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    Yeah, I'm not anti-improvement, just anti-homogenisation.

    More faces? Yeah!
    Separate horns/markings? Sure, makes sense.
    More muscle sliders? Eh, fine. I'd also like more scar options for everyone!
    Half-Elezen that look like Midlanders with pointy ears and their own traits? I wouldn't play one but why not, it would be cheap to do.
    Elezen with Hyur proportions and big heads? No.
    Insulting people who play the actual Elezen by repeatedly insinuating that they are ugly? No. This is bad.

    Say, hypothetically, that they released the 'cute Elezen' archetype everyone supposedly wants, with a more conventional aesthetic. Overnight there'd be loads of Legolas clones everywhere, and those of us who play the 'classic Elezen' as the creators intended will suddenly go from 'people playing an unusual race' to 'people playing an unusual race and voluntarily choosing to look ugly' in the minds of the vocal minority of people who hate unconventional looks. These 'cute Elezen' would make all of the existing Elezen NPCs look weird in comparison.

    S-E deliberately didn't call them elves, because they're not elves. They're not 'disproportionate', because they conform precisely to the proportions of Elezen within the game's world, which is the only place that Elezen exist at all (promotional art is seldom accurate for this series). We don't care about how there'd be more Elezen if we lost our unique proportions because as far as I know none of us receive secret financial incentives for attracting other players to make characters like ours. This is a non-problem.

    Can we go back to improving the character creator for everyone instead of trying to promote virtual genocide on people with a different sense of attractiveness to the mainstream? There are five other races to choose from, you don't all have to be Elezen!
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    Last edited by Serilda; 11-01-2017 at 01:23 AM.

  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    People in this thread have expressed that they want an elezen that doesn't have elongated long limbs. Thats not an elezen. I don’t really care for lalas- super small super cute races aren’t my thing in video games. That said, I don’t see a point to petitioning SE to change lala’s physique. Just cause they don’t work for me doesn’t inherently mean they need “fixing”. It means they don’t work for me.

    I’d be fine with some pudge or more muscle sliders, but keeping a race’s defining features (elezen long limbs, au ra scales, lala garden gnome anatomy etc) is an absolute must. Without them me might as well all be playing hyurs.
    I went back and I do see a couple of comments referring to looking "less long" and "gangly" and so I apologize. . The normal Elezen complaints seem to be about the neck, headsize and shoulder broadness - I hadn't seen the complaints about lankiness before. I personally don't have anything against the limb length, but I do think more body types for all races could be fun.

    I'm still just hoping that one day they unlock all of the features currently locked to specific faces. That alone would bring a ton of diversity to our characters.
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 11-01-2017 at 02:05 AM.

  8. #88
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    Nol Lac'nala
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    The fact that Hilda exists, in canon, must drive you up the wall.
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  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by NolLacnala View Post
    The fact that Hilda exists, in canon, must drive you up the wall.
    if you wanna draw your cat with au ra scales, a roe nose, and 1 angel wing, have at it.
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  10. #90
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    Celie Lothaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by NolLacnala View Post
    The fact that Hilda exists, in canon, must drive you up the wall.
    Why would the existence of a half-race (and thus a reason for the combination of traits) bother someone who is against changing the traits of the non-half versions?

    That's just silly.
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