Character creation

[Vegituh]

Neither is she. She said herself that she worded it poorly, shes not saying she wants to take away the look of current Elezen, simply suggesting more options. Which I must say, I would love to have not just for Elezen but for all the races.

More options so she can "fix it". Which would end up making no one look correct. I've seen what people do with silders. Like those horrible Dark souls "joke characters". Can't wait to see some long limbed small body lalafell running around. Thatll make the game look great.

How about, instead of immersion breaking limb and neck sliders, we get more important customization options. Like more faces, or horns and facial features not being tied to the specific faces. How about more unique races? Lets add some of those, like Lupin, Bangaa or even the Viera concepts that we saw before. That is development time spent right.

[Niraves]

I've seen what people do with silders. The horrors of Dark souls joke characters. *shudder*

How about, instead of immersion breaking limb and neck sliders, we get more important customization options. Like more faces, horns and facial features not being tied to the specific faces. How about more unique races? Lets add some of those, like Lupin, Bangaa or even the Viera concepts that we saw before. That is development time spent right.

Sliders would have to be a no, or very limited in the same way the current bust sliders are so that you can't actually have a giraffe neck or something weird like that. I think just having a few more default options would be a great start. More faces for sure, more eye shapes and things like that.

I'm all for more unique looking races as well, but I do wonder how much time/work it would be to make all the existing armor fit exotic skeletons, I know they said the feet were an issue for Vierra and Lupin.

As for 'fixing' Elezen, I hate to say that I'm one of the people who can't seem to make a female Elezen I actually like the look of. It isn't that I find them ugly, but no matter how much I try I can never seem to make one look the way I want it to in character creation. Male Elezen are gorgeous and should be left just how they are. (Aymeric. <3 <3) But again, more options wouldn't hurt. A way to make them a little more muscular, or maybe a bit shorter. Just a few simple things that would give you more customization, without turning them into Hobbits.

[Vegituh]

Sliders would have to be a no, or very limited in the same way the current bust sliders are so that you can't actually have a giraffe neck or something weird like that. I think just having a few more default options would be a great start. More faces for sure, more eye shapes and things like that.

I'm all for more unique looking races as well, but I do wonder how much time/work it would be to make all the existing armor fit exotic skeletons, I know they said the feet were an issue for Vierra and Lupin.

Sliders are exactly what she was asking for. And anyways, a slider that does barely anything isn't even worth adding. I'm still standing by my "no limb sliders" thing.

Also I'm honestly getting tired of the whole "unique races will take too long/too much effort!" thing that people always fall back on. Yes, alot of people play Miqote and Hyurs. But if we are just going to go by the majority, then we might as well force everyone to play Hyur at this point. It'd be like saying "well not alot of people play tank or healer, so we aren't going to add anymore... wait.

Variety and options are always good for the customer. And is well worth the development time. But at the end of the day, Square still doesn't want to give FFXIV the time and money it deserves. So the chances for really unique playable races is very low.

As for 'fixing' Elezen, I hate to say that I'm one of the people who can't seem to make a female Elezen I actually like the look of. It isn't that I find them ugly, but no matter how much I try I can never seem to make one look the way I want it to in character creation. Male Elezen are gorgeous and should be left just how they are. (Aymeric. <3 <3) But again, more options wouldn't hurt. A way to make them a little more muscular, or maybe a bit shorter. Just a few simple things that would give you more customization, without turning them into Hobbits.

Most of those problems would be fixed with more faces. More faces and facial feature options would do wonders in making the races more customizable. We don't really need to delve into body sizes and sliders, except maybe butt sliders. Keep the iconic look of each race there while adding more customization.

[Niraves]

Also I'm honestly getting tired of the whole "unique races will take too long/too much effort!" thing that people always fall back on. Yes, alot of people play Miqote and Hyurs. But if we are just going to go by the majority, then we might as well force everyone to play Hyur at this point. It'd be like saying "well not alot of people play tank or healer, so we aren't going to add anymore... wait.

It just comes down to a matter of time/money invested and the return on that. If SE thinks that the more 'bestial' races are less popular and aren't going to be widely used, they don't really have much incentive to add them. Businesses gonna business, yo. I'm not saying thats how it should be, but unfortunately, thats just how it is.

Besides, I don't see that many Hyurs around. Not on my realm at least. Tons of catgirls, but catgirls.. so thats expected. Lol

[Vegituh]

It just comes down to a matter of time/money invested and the return on that. If SE thinks that the more 'bestial' races are less popular and aren't going to be widely used, they don't really have much incentive to add them. Businesses gonna business, yo. I'm not saying thats how it should be, but unfortunately, thats just how it is.

Besides, I don't see that many Hyurs around. Not on my realm at least. Tons of catgirls, but catgirls.. so thats expected. Lol

It is unfortunate. But does any MMO really make alot of money off releasing new races? Who knows, they'd never tell us anyways. I just hope we actually keep getting new races.

I see alot of Hyurs around.. but no where near the levels of the female Miqotes. I'm pretty sure that Female Miqotes outnumber the combined Roe/Elezen population. Hell you could probably toss in male Au ras into that group and it still wouldn't beat the Femqotes. Catgirls everywhere.

[Niraves]

It is unfortunate. But does any MMO really make alot of money off releasing new races? Who knows, they'd never tell us anyways. I just hope we actually keep getting new races.

I see alot of Hyurs around.. but no where near the levels of the female Miqotes. I'm pretty sure that Female Miqotes outnumber the combined Roe/Elezen population. Hell you could probably toss in male Au ras into that group and it still wouldn't beat the Femqotes. Catgirls everywhere.

I do hope we get more races too. I would love to see maybe Hybrid races. But when you add Lalafells into the mix it can be kinda squicky. I love my Lala and I think Lalas are the cutest race by far, but can you imagine a hybrid Roe/Lala? Good grief. XD

But mostly I just want a few new face options for everyone. More eye shapes, new make up and tattoos for every race. Little things that all add up to make your character feel more unique.

Oh. And eyebrows for male Highlanders. Those poor guys have no eyebrows!

[Vegituh]

I do hope we get more races too. I would love to see maybe Hybrid races. But when you add Lalafells into the mix it can be kinda squicky. I love my Lala and I think Lalas are the cutest race by far, but can you imagine a hybrid Roe/Lala? Good grief. XD

But mostly I just want a few new face options for everyone. More eye shapes, new make up and tattoos for every race. Little things that all add up to make your character feel more unique.

Unfortunately Square has pretty much killed any possibility of interesting hybrid races by stating that hybrids take the race of their mother and will only show small signs of hybrid-ativity. Most of the time itll be like Hilda (Hyur with small pointy ears). So, hypothetically, lets take the Female Lalafell in Ul'dah who is married to a male Roe and say they had a child. What would it look like? Probably a Lalafell with a unique Seawolf/Redguard skin tone, maybe a larger nose. Switch the roles (Male lala/Fem Roe) and the offspring would probably be a Roegadyn with pointy Lala-based ears. True hybrids would be really cool to see, but unfortunately I don't think that'll ever happen.

And I agree. We need more faces, eyes, make up and tattoos. Also unlock Au ras horns (and other facial features) from their respective faces and let them be chosen at will on every face. Also more facial hair please. We need more beards and even mustaches.