Character creation

[Asmrran]

Uhm. No. Stop yourself.

More facial options sounds good though.

Err, I should of worded that better. I mean, keep the Elezen we have now but add more body types/sliders (like keep everyone's body right now as 'Average' and then add more) so maybe I can make an Elezen character look decent

[Vegituh]

Oh yeah, when I said Rework I meant to completely change the gangly look of Elezen. But honestly body types could fix that problem, giving every race a few options (Average, Thin, Overweight, Muscular) kind of deal, or just giving more sliders on sections of the body to maybe balance out the weirder parts on Elezen lol

Oh sure. Let's just force Elezen players to join the prestigious ranks of "Humans+". Let's just destroy a races look because it doesn't fit what you like.

It's already bad enough that Yoshi and his team seem adamant on not giving us more unique races in this game, Gods forbid that they have to alter gear models. So lets not go destroying the Elezens (and Roe/Lalas for that matter) uniqueness. Not everything has to fit everyone.

I am perfectly happy playing a giraffe. Just like I assume Lalafells enjoy playing potatoes, and you enjoy playing a human teenager cosplaying as a succubus (Succubus lite?)

Uhm. No. Stop yourself.

More facial options sounds good though.

Exactly this. More faces and other things like tattoos or facial marks. Less destroying races identities because you don't like em.


Edit

Err, I should of worded that better. I mean, keep the Elezen we have now but add more body types/sliders (like keep everyone's body right now as 'Average' and then add more) so maybe I can make an Elezen character look decent

"Body types"? What other kind of body types do you expect from the Warrior of Light? We are an "adventurer" whos always on the move, constantly doing physically strenuous exercises in a high fantasy "middle ages" type world. Of course the characters are fit. Its the only thing that makes sense.

Also "so maybe I can make an elezen character look decent?" Rude. But hey. I guess we poor Elezen will never reach the lofty heights of "human teenage girl cosplaying as a succubus or cat". Woe is us.

[Niraves]

Also "so maybe I can make an elezen character look decent?" Rude. But hey. I guess we poor Elezen will never reach the lofty heights of "human teenage girl cosplaying as a succubus or cat". Woe is us.

You should lay off the caffiene buddy. You're the one being rude.

[Vegituh]

You should lay off the caffiene buddy. You're the one being rude.

I'm not the one suggesting that we destroy a races look because it doesn't gel with me without any regards to the players who play said race.

[Niraves]

I'm not the one suggesting that we destroy a races look because it doesn't gel with me without any regards to the players who play said race.

Neither is she. She said herself that she worded it poorly, shes not saying she wants to take away the look of current Elezen, simply suggesting more options. Which I must say, I would love to have not just for Elezen but for all the races.

[Enla]

I'm not the one suggesting that we destroy a races look because it doesn't gel with me without any regards to the players who play said race.

I main an Elezen but the original opinion is not worth getting so uptight over. People are allowed to disagree. Hell I can't stand playing Hyur and there's only one female Aura face I can stand as well. Also, while I do think body style changes would go a long way to fixing my personal issues at the end of the day just having that opinion and being interested in seeing how it might work out doesn't mean I want to destroy their aesthetics. Having the ability to make choices in regards to how the race looks is fine so long as it keeps in line with their original design. No one will force you to change.

[Vegituh]

Neither is she. She said herself that she worded it poorly, shes not saying she wants to take away the look of current Elezen, simply suggesting more options. Which I must say, I would love to have not just for Elezen but for all the races.

More options so she can "fix it". Which would end up making no one look correct. I've seen what people do with silders. Like those horrible Dark souls "joke characters". Can't wait to see some long limbed small body lalafell running around. Thatll make the game look great.

How about, instead of immersion breaking limb and neck sliders, we get more important customization options. Like more faces, or horns and facial features not being tied to the specific faces. How about more unique races? Lets add some of those, like Lupin, Bangaa or even the Viera concepts that we saw before. That is development time spent right.

[Niraves]

I've seen what people do with silders. The horrors of Dark souls joke characters. *shudder*

How about, instead of immersion breaking limb and neck sliders, we get more important customization options. Like more faces, horns and facial features not being tied to the specific faces. How about more unique races? Lets add some of those, like Lupin, Bangaa or even the Viera concepts that we saw before. That is development time spent right.

Sliders would have to be a no, or very limited in the same way the current bust sliders are so that you can't actually have a giraffe neck or something weird like that. I think just having a few more default options would be a great start. More faces for sure, more eye shapes and things like that.

I'm all for more unique looking races as well, but I do wonder how much time/work it would be to make all the existing armor fit exotic skeletons, I know they said the feet were an issue for Vierra and Lupin.

As for 'fixing' Elezen, I hate to say that I'm one of the people who can't seem to make a female Elezen I actually like the look of. It isn't that I find them ugly, but no matter how much I try I can never seem to make one look the way I want it to in character creation. Male Elezen are gorgeous and should be left just how they are. (Aymeric. <3 <3) But again, more options wouldn't hurt. A way to make them a little more muscular, or maybe a bit shorter. Just a few simple things that would give you more customization, without turning them into Hobbits.

[Vegituh]

Sliders would have to be a no, or very limited in the same way the current bust sliders are so that you can't actually have a giraffe neck or something weird like that. I think just having a few more default options would be a great start. More faces for sure, more eye shapes and things like that.

I'm all for more unique looking races as well, but I do wonder how much time/work it would be to make all the existing armor fit exotic skeletons, I know they said the feet were an issue for Vierra and Lupin.

Sliders are exactly what she was asking for. And anyways, a slider that does barely anything isn't even worth adding. I'm still standing by my "no limb sliders" thing.

Also I'm honestly getting tired of the whole "unique races will take too long/too much effort!" thing that people always fall back on. Yes, alot of people play Miqote and Hyurs. But if we are just going to go by the majority, then we might as well force everyone to play Hyur at this point. It'd be like saying "well not alot of people play tank or healer, so we aren't going to add anymore... wait.

Variety and options are always good for the customer. And is well worth the development time. But at the end of the day, Square still doesn't want to give FFXIV the time and money it deserves. So the chances for really unique playable races is very low.

As for 'fixing' Elezen, I hate to say that I'm one of the people who can't seem to make a female Elezen I actually like the look of. It isn't that I find them ugly, but no matter how much I try I can never seem to make one look the way I want it to in character creation. Male Elezen are gorgeous and should be left just how they are. (Aymeric. <3 <3) But again, more options wouldn't hurt. A way to make them a little more muscular, or maybe a bit shorter. Just a few simple things that would give you more customization, without turning them into Hobbits.

Most of those problems would be fixed with more faces. More faces and facial feature options would do wonders in making the races more customizable. We don't really need to delve into body sizes and sliders, except maybe butt sliders. Keep the iconic look of each race there while adding more customization.

[Niraves]

Also I'm honestly getting tired of the whole "unique races will take too long/too much effort!" thing that people always fall back on. Yes, alot of people play Miqote and Hyurs. But if we are just going to go by the majority, then we might as well force everyone to play Hyur at this point. It'd be like saying "well not alot of people play tank or healer, so we aren't going to add anymore... wait.

It just comes down to a matter of time/money invested and the return on that. If SE thinks that the more 'bestial' races are less popular and aren't going to be widely used, they don't really have much incentive to add them. Businesses gonna business, yo. I'm not saying thats how it should be, but unfortunately, thats just how it is.

Besides, I don't see that many Hyurs around. Not on my realm at least. Tons of catgirls, but catgirls.. so thats expected. Lol