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  1. #11
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    Rufalus's Avatar
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 100
    I see both sides of the argument. It's supposed to be a hard fight, but also the time waste of repeating easier parts to get back to a hard part is a horrible punishment that videogames do. So I guess I can support the idea of putting checkpoints in long fights. Like you could make the mechanics even more difficult to compensate for there being a checkpoint in the middle and it would still be less stressful because eliminates mindlessly repeating phases you already cleared. Unless it's like Ultimate difficulty which is supposed to be masochistic, then you can have insane mechanics on top of no checkpoint.
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  2. #12
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    Tae Sylphanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeycht View Post
    nobody want contents for less than 10% of players
    I want content that's made for less than 10% of players. I don't expect that Ultimate is something I'll be able to do, but I absolutely love that it exists. And Extremes are much more accessible to more of the playerbase than Ultimate. Way to make an empty absolute statement that you have no way to back up because of how easy it is to contradict.
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  3. #13
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    So I guess I can support the idea of putting checkpoints in long fights.
    Isn't that what The Aetherochemical Research Facility did with its final boss?
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  4. #14
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    Lho Polaali
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    Isn't that what The Aetherochemical Research Facility did with its final boss?
    This also happened on Diabolos in Dun Scaith. Once you cleared the DBZ beam battle, you started from Diabolos Hollow if you wiped. It's not something new to the game, just something they use rarely.

    Quote Originally Posted by CuteMoonMoon View Post
    If you offwork at 6-7AM EST and you got only got 2-3 hours online time in work day.
    You never know the feeling when you waste a day for nothing get, dont to mension that it takes an hour to form a group at that time
    Don't presume to know what anyone here knows or not just because they disagree with you. You just described my schedule to getting through Sephirot ex, and while it was already dated when I tackled it, the people who said 'this is old content lol' were usually the first dead bodies on the floor, people didn't know the difference between clear and learning party, and all it took was a tiny bit of latency to make you not grab the tether and there goes a healer or two. Blink and it's past your bedtime and you need to drive into the office in the morning.
    The moral of this story is that if you don't have the time to invest in such content, don't run such content. It's unfair to people with statics who don't have to worry about the PF, it's unfair to people who do have the time for this sort of thing. It's like this tank I had in Rabanastre who was like 'work in 30 minutes let's speed run this :^)". Dude if that's all the time you have, don't queue for this sort of content.
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  5. #15
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    Cute Moonmoon
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    Lancer Lv 80
    I do have time.. but the play time wasted by fail parties feels annoyed and tired. Look back at susano and lakishmi, they are way less tired than shinryu
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by CuteMoonMoon View Post
    I do have time.. but the play time wasted by fail parties feels annoyed and tired. Look back at susano and lakishmi, they are way less tired than shinryu
    1. Susano and Lakshmi's had several months of being released for people to both overgear and learn the heck out of them. This is new content, give it a while.
    2. Susano and Lakshmi are supposed to be easier. What's the point of introducing new tiers of difficulty if you'll just nerf them down to the same level as the last tier?
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  7. #17
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    Mature Rudlum
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    Please just STOP asking for nerfs.

    Practice makes better
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  8. #18
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    Ren Okamiya
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    I was wondering when this topic was going to come out :3

    It's supposed to be difficult, this is why it is fun. If you already cleared it 33 times without good parties, I will say it's not quite the waste you say it is
    Find some kind of static or LS but do not ask for nerfs ^^

    Thordan was (and still is) for me the best fight in the game BECAUSE my static and I sweat blood and tears on it. SB is boring overall, and shinryu I think is the fun I was waiting for.
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  9. #19
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CuteMoonMoon View Post
    I do have time.. but the play time wasted by fail parties feels annoyed and tired. Look back at susano and lakishmi, they are way less tired than shinryu
    They were also complete pushovers. Let's not make this game any easier than it already is. That only encourages more players to not care.
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  10. #20
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    X'lantaa Lizhashen
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    What? It is pretty simple. You don't need even high DPS to beat him. People need pay attention what the wings are casting. Maybe they can make it more noticeable instead of watch to the enemy list, but nothing more.

    Also, don't worry. 3.2 will nefr it because new gear will come. Time will nerf it anyway.
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