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    Nora_of_Mira's Avatar
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    Nora Origo
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark View Post
    Shinryu is not meant to be farmable by pugs. That's BY DESIGN.
    Either get a static group or just accept it that you'll farm other stuff, but not Shinryu.

    While there's nothing wrong with being a casual, you can't expect to be able to FARM every content the game has. Some of it was designed for a different crowd.
    I think its VERY farmable with PUGs. the only thing that stops my farm parties is someone having to leave after 3ish clears. I've been clearing it 2-5 times a night with my small window of playtime without a static.
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    Jeycht Rechton
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    Moogle
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    I'm all for it, nobody want contents for less than 10% of players, everything should be doable for 50% of the playerbase atleast (if not more). To be sure it's not a waste of ressources.
    I'm sure Nic Pay would agree with me.
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    Clean everything before any nerf is my goal. No matter the time needed to reach the last hp and beat it.
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    Tae Sylphanas
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeycht View Post
    nobody want contents for less than 10% of players
    I want content that's made for less than 10% of players. I don't expect that Ultimate is something I'll be able to do, but I absolutely love that it exists. And Extremes are much more accessible to more of the playerbase than Ultimate. Way to make an empty absolute statement that you have no way to back up because of how easy it is to contradict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeycht View Post
    I'm all for it, nobody want contents for less than 10% of players, everything should be doable for 50% of the playerbase atleast (if not more). To be sure it's not a waste of ressources.
    I'm sure Nic Pay would agree with me.
    This trial is doable for more than 50% of the player base, it's just that there are a lot of lazy players out there who don't want to try anything hard. If that's what they want to do, hey, we don't pay their sub, but at the same time, they shouldn't be whining and complaining about content that's available, but they will not do. I've said it before, I'll say it again, if people want to do this, they need to take the time to actually learn how to do the fight and then go out and do it. Not come to the OF and complain that they can't do it because of blah blah blah. A significant portion of lvl 70s do nothing but sit around and AFK - those who do this need to stop coming here to complain.
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 92
    No nerfs, please and thank you.
    The fight is supposed to be difficult; it’s not supposed to roll over.
    You just got bad PUGs.
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    Enyalios Ares
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    I say this and this alone. It’s called extreme
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 100
    I see both sides of the argument. It's supposed to be a hard fight, but also the time waste of repeating easier parts to get back to a hard part is a horrible punishment that videogames do. So I guess I can support the idea of putting checkpoints in long fights. Like you could make the mechanics even more difficult to compensate for there being a checkpoint in the middle and it would still be less stressful because eliminates mindlessly repeating phases you already cleared. Unless it's like Ultimate difficulty which is supposed to be masochistic, then you can have insane mechanics on top of no checkpoint.
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    So I guess I can support the idea of putting checkpoints in long fights.
    Isn't that what The Aetherochemical Research Facility did with its final boss?
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Lho Polaali
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    Isn't that what The Aetherochemical Research Facility did with its final boss?
    This also happened on Diabolos in Dun Scaith. Once you cleared the DBZ beam battle, you started from Diabolos Hollow if you wiped. It's not something new to the game, just something they use rarely.

    Quote Originally Posted by CuteMoonMoon View Post
    If you offwork at 6-7AM EST and you got only got 2-3 hours online time in work day.
    You never know the feeling when you waste a day for nothing get, dont to mension that it takes an hour to form a group at that time
    Don't presume to know what anyone here knows or not just because they disagree with you. You just described my schedule to getting through Sephirot ex, and while it was already dated when I tackled it, the people who said 'this is old content lol' were usually the first dead bodies on the floor, people didn't know the difference between clear and learning party, and all it took was a tiny bit of latency to make you not grab the tether and there goes a healer or two. Blink and it's past your bedtime and you need to drive into the office in the morning.
    The moral of this story is that if you don't have the time to invest in such content, don't run such content. It's unfair to people with statics who don't have to worry about the PF, it's unfair to people who do have the time for this sort of thing. It's like this tank I had in Rabanastre who was like 'work in 30 minutes let's speed run this :^)". Dude if that's all the time you have, don't queue for this sort of content.
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    Cute Moonmoon
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    Ultros
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    Lancer Lv 80
    I do have time.. but the play time wasted by fail parties feels annoyed and tired. Look back at susano and lakishmi, they are way less tired than shinryu
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