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  1. #21
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    Ksenia's Avatar
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    Ksenia Solo
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    Demi III come from desynth as others have said. Most of it coming from Mor Dhona trade in but the direct for Demi III trade in, is not a true option. The items you see being asked for in trade for Demi III are NQ "fails" for the HQ requirement for the original Master 1 and 2 books. They require 2xDemi III to make. The cash in for NQ to recover one of the Demi III was put in to soften the blow.

    Most use Jeweler because they decided that Artisan's Spectacles were untradeable but not unique where all the other Artisan stuff remains unique so you can only have one at a time. Long story short, you need to desynth for them.
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    Wynne Yilmaz
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    The Spectacles are generally better for Fieldcraft Demimateria III.

    The Tools are generally better for Mastercraft Demimateria.

    Hell, I think the Tools are better for FC3 too.
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    Roj Gardoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    In case you need Mastercraft demimateria later, Artisan's Specs are now available from Grand Company (need to be 1st lieutenant) for 5000 seals a pair to desyn.
    Yikes! That's pricey. For 200 seals per venture you can use a miner retainer to get 9 gold ore I believe (level 50). That gets you 3 rose gold nuggets (combined with 3 copper ore which is super cheap at vender), and takes 2 nuggets to make one rose gold cog to turn in for a pair of glasses at Talan in RT. So average over multiple ventures is 267 seals = one pair of Artisan's Specs

    Am I mathing right? (not online rn). 5000 seals just seems so excessive comparatively if this is correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RojGardoth View Post
    Yikes! That's pricey. For 200 seals per venture you can use a miner retainer to get 9 gold ore I believe (level 50). That gets you 3 rose gold nuggets (combined with 3 copper ore which is super cheap at vender), and takes 2 nuggets to make one rose gold cog to turn in for a pair of glasses at Talan in RT. So average over multiple ventures is 267 seals = one pair of Artisan's Specs

    Am I mathing right? (not online rn). 5000 seals just seems so excessive comparatively if this is correct.
    Yeah, the turn-in method at Talan is still the cheapest. Spending 5K seals is definitely "burning" the seals... It is a viable option when you have a zillion seals to spare though, but no time to make the cogs. I've been leveling multiple DoM/DoW, so I just got way too many seals... Anyway, like magnanimousCynic said, specs aren't even the best option for Mastercraft. The tools are. But they're even more expensive... if I remember correctly, each tool is like 7500 seals.
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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    You know, I've been finding the old level 60 sets (both the carbon and individual class sets) are great for FD3. Since the retainers are flooding the market, these are rather cheap. You can buy some for like 4k ~ 30k. It's not as cheap as the Talan route, but it's faster and great for leveling your desynth. I dunno if someone has already mentioned this already. *^^* Sorry if I'm repeating someone's earlier advice.
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    Dingvar Mavas
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    And here I was, wasting so much gil to get them through desynth...

    Thanks for saying he trades them, I probably never would've found out if you didn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ing-Dono View Post
    And here I was, wasting so much gil to get them through desynth...

    Thanks for saying he trades them, I probably never would've found out if you didn't.
    From my understanding the items he trades them for requires 2 Fieldcraft Demimateria III to get one so not really an option. I imagined it was to recuperate the cost back in ARR in case you did not get the HQ version.
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    Lele Inoch
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexJMercer View Post
    From my understanding the items he trades them for requires 2 Fieldcraft Demimateria III to get one so not really an option. I imagined it was to recuperate the cost back in ARR in case you did not get the HQ version.
    That is correct.
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    Nivora Seru
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    i just desynthed 100 Bridesmaid's sandals which resulted in 29 master III's, i think the rate is around 25% but i just sell the excess i don't need atm for a nice profit

    there are several good items for Artisan's spectacles imo like Spirits of Salt, Silver Brocade, Rosegold Cog and Darksteel Hook. With the buff to gathering that is Bountiful Harvest II you'll get at least 24 items from a timed node and most of them have a higher natural yield anyway. Like we can craft 15 spirits of salt an hour on the timed node because we can gather 30/42 Volcanic rock salt an hour and this is the roughly the same for all items
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Or get the Carbuncle Lantern http://en.ff14housing.com/itemview.php?id=07a8802de06 from your GC, its rather cheap as you dont need gil, just FC currancy.
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