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    Theophorus Trinitas
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    Individual players owning Large Houses for personal use. Yay or nay?

    Hi all, so we're one week after Shirogane housing was released and I'm curious as to your opinion on the above. Should individual players be allowed to own Large houses if they have the gil and are able to do so? Some players believe this is an issue as these individual players are harming Free Companies because they are denied access to these plots and should be stripped of them. Some believe they should be ok with purchasing them as they have the gil and ability to do so.

    I definitely see both sides of the argument but I'm in the latter camp. For disclosure I was one of the lucky individuals who were able to buy a plot that I have been saving for since 3.4 on Patch Day and got the only plot I wanted in Shirogane which just happened to be the plot everyone was targeting (plot 30).

    Personally I'm looking forward to seeing how SE will tackle the new wards and the systems they will place for purchasing these new homes.

    So I'd like to know your opinion on the matter. Thanks
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    Elan Centauri
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    Personally, I don't see the big deal if solo players have mansions. However, I could understand if SE made them FC only...that's a lot of space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Considering the amount of micro FC's there are now that have never had more than 1-3 active members I don't really see any reason to make large plots FC only.
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    Nettle Creidne
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    I have mixed feelings about this because there are so few mansions in the game. I think a player should be able to live in whatever plot size they like, but there's no doubt that a fc would get better use out of a mansion than an individual.

    I would certainly feel better about it if mansions had far more tenancy slots than a cottage. It makes no sense that they're the same.

    SE could make mansions less desirable for individual players if they allowed all plots sizes to have three gardening patches. The gardening patches are a huge reason why I wanted a medium instead of a small. I doubt I'm the only one who didn't want a small for that reason.
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    Wolftamer Little
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    This game is moving more and more towards small man content. LArge FCs are not only drying up, but if anything content is aimed at reducing them. Let's be honest, you can do everything in this game with an FC of 8 people. A large house also holds no difference than a small for an FC. Personal housing (which is kinda dumb with apartments now) and Company Workshop (whose use is also drying up) are the only things that matter to an FC house and you get them on all sizes.
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    The issue here is a supply issue. Fix that and it's no longer something to be worried about.
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    Last edited by Enla; 10-17-2017 at 09:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolftamer View Post
    This game is moving more and more towards small man content. LArge FCs are not only drying up, but if anything content is aimed at reducing them. Let's be honest, you can do everything in this game with an FC of 8 people.
    Where are you getting this from? This is the first I have ever heard about large fcs drying up. If anything the housing system helps some stay big because if they have a house then members have an easy way to get access to some form of personal housing.

    Just because you can do everything with eight people doesn't mean fcs will never feel the need to have more than eight people. Players rarely all play at the same time or for the exact same amount of time. For a fc to be lively 99% of the time eight people is far from enough for that. Most people would consider a fc with eight people to either be in its infancy or dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolftamer View Post
    A large house also holds no difference than a small for an FC.
    Wrong. While any house can have access to the workshop, only large houses can have the maximum amount of gardening patches, vendors and have every crafting station. Crafting stations may only work up to lvl 50 but I can tell you the fc members in my fc use them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    If anything the housing system helps some stay big because if they have a house then members have an easy way to get access to some form of personal housing.
    Apartments. Not only easier, but safer too

    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Just because you can do everything with eight people doesn't mean fcs will never feel the need to have more than eight people.
    Point is the content is every day driving away the need for large FCs. Hell, on some of these large FCs getting a slot in the main raid static is a greater challenge than buying a mansion in the game....



    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    and have every crafting station.
    Storerooms really negate the worry about crafting stations. Of course getting 50 in a craft should only take you about an hour anyways.

    Any why are they not getting power leveled by your higher crafters? Your FC should help it's members more....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolftamer View Post
    Apartments. Not only easier, but safer too
    I know that before Shirogane many servers had no apartments left. That's probably the case again. Or it soon will be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolftamer View Post
    Point is the content is every day driving away the need for large FCs. Hell, on some of these large FCs getting a slot in the main raid static is a greater challenge than buying a mansion in the game....
    What do you mean by every day? The game has been built around 4 and 8 man teams since ARR and it hasn't changed since. Why would fcs be magically getting smaller only now? This sounds like baseless fiction to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolftamer View Post
    Storerooms really negate the worry about crafting stations.
    Not really unless you plan on having someone online ready to swap them out at a moment's notice. The storeroom helps but it's hardly a fix. Goodness it would be even more awkward to do with vendors, and well it does absolutely zero to help with the gardening patches. You can't store any that have plants in them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolftamer View Post
    Any why are they not getting power leveled by your higher crafters? Your FC should help it's members more....
    Believe it or not most players prefer to play the game themselves. I help fc mates by crafting crafting/gathering gear for them. I enable them to play the game better, not play the game for them.
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    No larges for FC only is silly. the benfits arent that big, the crafting station thing is old they up the xp from leves and crafting so much pre 50 who would even use them. If you help your fc mates explaning (not doing there leves) about food boost gc scrools and fc buffs that toss stations out the window..
    the gardening isn't enough for any one. we have to run multi personal house gardens just to crossbreed enough onions for our small fc so the 1 or 2 extra garden plots helpfull but not required
    and yes the game is going tword smaller fc's with the new PF/RF and cross world tells and friend list to set up raids n trials so we gonna see a ton more smaller fc's
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