Built-in Parsers

[Xlantaa]

Just a quick note on the first and last ones, we certainly don't want to punish players by having them HAVE to keep someone in party who's underperforming, for fear of punishment, nor discourage them from making use of FFLogs. For example, I've never given my consent to my static members uploading parses, so anything goes up, good or bad, and being that I don't (can't) parse, I generally have no say on it, lest I restrict everyone's numbers from being uploaded. Perhaps my absolute worst run was someone's best, and I wouldn't want to deny them that.

This a a FFLOGs problem, since the page has not private options, (the only one is you can hide data for your character). But that not prevent form data upload. That web need more tools to configure and allow only what you want to show, limit for example to only you static members. And ignore/erase any parser you don't want, but without block others form upload their data, just ignoring yours. FFlogs needs much more private options, but that's a third party site and it has no place in this thread discussion.

[kikix12]

Ultimately, as an MMO, this game is "public domain". Whatever you do within, your numbers, your chat...all of it is "public" to a greater or lesser degree. Square Enix itself shows a surprising lot of information about players through lodestone.

As such, consent for sharing public information is not really required. That applies both in real world and in this, and there are very few limitations on what information is excluded (largely offensive or intimate one) from this freedom.

Parsers and the corresponding logs thusly are in no way restricted by regulations of any sort (whether or not that is "proper" is another thing entirely). It's just a matter of Square Enix not wanting to take chances on the possibility of them affecting the community negatively, while still requiring time and money to develop.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

This a a FFLOGs problem, since the page has not private options, (the only one is you can hide data for your character). But that not prevent form data upload. That web need more tools to configure and allow only what you want to show, limit for example to only you static members. And ignore/erase any parser you don't want, but without block others form upload their data, just ignoring yours. FFlogs needs much more private options, but that's a third party site and it has no place in this thread discussion.

I noted before that people are very much selective about what numbers go up. I simply noted that in my case, unless I hide my own (which has its own implications), or request that my entire team's parses not be uploaded if somehow my specific numbers aren't great, I simply have to let whatever goes up stand and speak for me. For that reason, and others unimportant to the topic at hand, I care very little for what goes up there. I DO care if my team and I perform well, but anyone trying to progress can see that right in front of them when it's happening. I'd agree it could use more tools, but largely, it's not the data and management that needs work, it's the players and how they choose to use it. I know that may be stepping on toes a bit to say that, but let's not act like we haven't seen examples of what I mean in this very topic itself.