Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
People don't want raiding culture to spread to the rest of the game. Raiders treat this game like a job, and the fun they get out of it is like the fun people get out of a job. But the negative aspects of raiding are similar to the negative aspects of a job. If that spreads to casual content, well, people who treat this game as something they do to relax and not something they do to work at in order to gain status won't be happy with the change.
Suppose the Monk is my group is auditioning for American Idol then because he's randomly broken into song for no reason except to be funny. Our Bard worn her pig outfit she called "my outfit of shame!" Do we have serious moments or argue amongst ourselves? Absolutely. We still treat raiding as a fun activity even when we dispense the memes and push for clears. Would you fancy I call all non-raiders casuals who just suck at the game? Is that a fair generalization of players who may simply not find Savage fun? It's no different than lumping all raiders under the umbrella of elitism either.

Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
you got stuff to back up your statement? proof im false cuz all I see is "what ifs" you not giving full details to your hyperbole.
I repeat, since you apparently missed my example.
Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
Story time!

Just the other night during our weeklies clears, I misread my buffs in Neo and Elusive Jumped with Allagan Field thinking it was Acceleration Bomb + Unbalance. The result was my death by flipping off the platform. This triggers Allagan immediately, spending a massive high damaging shockwave across the entire raid. Now, do explain how the healers, tanks or three other DPS are at fault for my mistake. I suppose our Scholar should've had telepathy and known to Rescue in that precise moment so I wouldn't fall off right?
Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
never in mmo is 1 person at fault for 8 ppl dying. everyone has their fair share in the blame, no matter what "examples" you try to use, you are missing details on how/why that even happen. just pointing out the end result.
This is categorically false. Even in dungeons, one person can easily cause a wipe. Just this morning I had a healer who perpetually left my health at near critical levels. I'm on Dark Knight and properly rotating my CDs. What more can I do if I'm flat out not getting healed?

I mean, let's take this nonsense to its logical extreme. By your statement, I could straight up not heal you on White Mage and you still share in the blame for your inevitable death. That makes absolutely no sense.