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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    that was an outliner group. I did say trolls exist on jp side. Most my experiences have been plesent. in fact most my coil wins were on jp. I was on tonberry. Never had an issue with jp players, most are more pleasent then ppl like you.
    Anecdotal experience does not equate to fact. Do you have any hard data that is not anecdotal that there are more “trolls” or “elitists” on the NA/EU side compared to JP? Because all I have seen is anecdote after anecdote.

    Also, last I heard, Tonberry was the Oceania server, not really part of the other JP servers, since the overwhelming majority of players on Tonberry are not from Japan, but form Oceania. As for my pleasantry, I didn’t realize that disagreeing with you on an online discussion forum was being unpleasant. At least I don’t use backhandedly condescending remarks or smiley faces.

    you got stuff to back up your statement? proof im false cuz all I see is "what ifs" you not giving full details to your hyperbole.
    The burden of proof lies with you, since you are the one claiming that “all mistakes are recoverable” and “it is impossible for 1 person and 1 mistake to wipe an entire party.” Also, perhaps I should give you the definition of “hyperbole”, since you clearly do not know what it means.

    Hyperbole: noun Rhetoric.

    1. obvious and intentional exaggeration.
    2. an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity.”
    None of the examples I gave were gross exaggerations—therefore, not hyperbole. Don’t throw around words you don’t know how to properly use, because they aren’t helping you.

    I suggest you get a ps4, log into DCUO it has a built in parser. play for 3 mnths and see how it is.
    Like dualgunner already said—this would be an anecdotal experience. What if my DCUO experience was better than the one you’ve apparently had? Since you seem to think anecdotal > quantitative data, I suppose that would only hurt your argument.

    and lastly, i got 30+ mmo under my belt, i got 10 years of mmo under my belt. I was playing them before parsers were a thing, how do you think people did end game?
    I’m going to be frank—I don’t care how many MMOs you have played, or how many years you supposedly have “under your belt.” I asked you about your experience in THIS game. Since you have failed to provide me with any proof that you have done Savage content (no Alexander, no Omega), your “30+ mmo” and “10 years of mmo” experience has no bearing on the discussion we are having about THIS GAME.

    Also, more anecdotes.

    everything you stated requires 0 parser. More team communication. You enjoy cherry picking my posts btw. I stated my examples from actual experience. I'm not seeing experience from you just "what if".
    Anecdotes. Again, anecdotes are not facts.

    i actually do said content jusy not at the moment, and i skipped alexander S because it simply wasn't my thing. I'm ps4 and tbh, never wiped my pt. so please.. grow up and stop being an E. never in mmo is 1 person at fault for 8 ppl dying. everyone has their fair share in the blame, no matter what "examples" you try to use, you are missing details on how/why that even happen. just pointing out the end result.
    See my post above—you don’t do Savage content, and apparently not much Ex trials content, so why are you trying to have a discussion involving parsers being used in content you don’t even partake in? And I played on PS4 for over a year. Your point in bringing that up is...what?

    What is an “E”? I’m assuming you’re calling me an “elitist”, and I hate to say, but my disagreeing with you and poking holes in your extremely flawed arguments doesn’t make me an “elitist.” Yet another word you toss around without actually seeming to know what it means.

    And, Miste, myself, dualgunner, Bourne_Endeavor, and many, many others have already given you example after example of where, in FFXIV, it is entirely possible for 1 player to wipe an entire party. You just refuse to acknowlegde them because they basically destroy your entire “argument.”

    Which is what you guys like doing, making examples but leaving details out.
    We gave you examples and details. You just like to ignore them.

    such as did anyone communicate a strategy? Did anyone give tanks a heads up on what to mitigate, and roughly around when? (fights are scripted by hp%)
    Aside from going in completely and totally blind, it’s pretty safe to say that a tank should absolutely know to use their CDs whenever they see a boss charging up for an attack. Especially if they have some ominous charge-up animation like Alexander’s Punishing Heat. Considering that we are discussing Savage, it is also safe to assume that the tanks have done Normal Mode (required for actually unlocking each and every tier of Savage, even Second Coil Savage), where Punishing Heat was also a tankbuster that stung quite a bit. And they should know that, in Savage, it’s going to hurt a lot more. Unmitigated Punishing Heat is a one-shot in A12S back when it was relevant, by the way. Same for Exdeath’s Thunder III tank buster.

    To not use mitigation is poor tanking in anything but a 100% blind run. There is no other excuse for failing to utilitize your kit as a tank.

    also please point out where i said parser are bad? I never said that. I said user made parser have a margin of error due to errors in coding, not being able to get extract damage algorithms.
    All i said is you don't need a parser to get better, which is the argument i hate that people toss around. People act like if you don't parse by default you suck.

    May want to stop cherry picking my posts and actually read/consider what i actually said.
    I don’t feel like quoting entire posts written by you, especially when others have already pointed out where you have said “parsers are bad”. But you have said time and time again based off of your own anecdotal experiences, not only how “bad” parsers are, but how bad NA/EU communities are in general when it comes to running with groups in content that use parsers. If you love the JP community so much, then why are you playing on an NA server?

    And please, take your own advice.

    I just hate the "one person can cause a wipe" bs I never seen it happen, I see a domino effect due to vindictiveness, and I see ppl who like to cherry pick posts and name.shame others for having a difference in opinion. I see people who think if you don't use third party tools you suck by default.
    I love this. We’re the one calling you names, but you called me “an E” in your last response to me. Well done!
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