Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
most are more pleasent then ppl like you.
You are the one who is being rude, so honestly I find it funny you talk about people being "pleasant" when you certainly aren't being so.

Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
you got stuff to back up your statement? proof im false cuz all I see is "what ifs" you not giving full details to your hyperbole.
The proof is in the game itself. If you played end game in FFXIV for longer than 10 mins you would know that a statement like "all mistakes are recoverable" and "no game content has a no win scenario" are false. You would also know that some mechanics in this game can cause wipes if even just one person fails it.

Yes, sometimes mistakes are recoverable, but depending on the mistake and how much of an impact it has some mistakes are not feasibly recoverable by the majority of players and some situations are 100% not recoverable at all.

Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
i actually do said content jusy not at the moment, and i skipped alexander S because it simply wasn't my thing. I'm ps4 and tbh, never wiped my pt. so please.. grow up and stop being an E. never in mmo is 1 person at fault for 8 ppl dying. everyone has their fair share in the blame, no matter what "examples" you try to use, you are missing details on how/why that even happen. just pointing out the end result.

Which is what you guys like doing, making examples but leaving details out.

such as did anyone communicate a strategy? Did anyone give tanks a heads up on what to mitigate, and roughly around when? (fights are scripted by hp%)
You want some actual mechanic proof?

O4S Allagan Field mechanic. If the person with field stands in the wrong spot (close to Neo and not in the back of the line for the wild charge) it will explode and wipe the entire raid. ONE player can cause this to happen if they fail the mechanic. Allagan Field has been around since coil as well and if I remember correctly it behaved the same way. The person with the field had to avoid damage otherwise it would explode and kill everyone.

O2S. Bomb mechanic. 4 designated players must levitate and get blown back to different cardinal directions otherwise the raid gets hit by a room wide AoE that one shots anything that isn't a tank. If one DPS player fails this mechanic it will kill both of your healers and if you have no RDM or SMN in your party composition then you are dead since no one can raise the healers. Very no win scenario right here.

A12S Temporal Stasis. Again 4 players are marked with area bombs similar to O2S. If one DPS does not move to their designated spot they can single handedly kill both of your healers and result in a non recoverable no win scenario if you had no SMN to even attempt to raise your healers (ignoring RDM since RDM didn't exist in HW when A12S was current content)

A11S last phase towers. A single player can put their circle AoE on the tower when they aren't supposed to. You require at least one tower still up to survive. If all towers get destroyed the battlefield immediately collapses killing the entire raid. A single player can accidentally break the towers.

Communicating a strategy doesn't somehow make people immune to mistakes so I don't even get what you are trying to say here. Mistakes happen even when people know the entire fight.

Also...you've "never" wiped a party highly likely means either A) you obviously haven't done savage much at all (or even general endgame content O.o) OR B) you are blind to your own mistakes and/or don't want to accept the blame for your own mistakes when you are the cause of a wipe. You want to pretend that there are always others to share the blame with in order to make yourself feel better. Sometimes the blame is shared this is true, but sometimes the fault can lie with one player depending on the circumstances.

Believe me I have single handedly wiped a group before due to my own mistake and the times where it was 100% my fault alone it was one person who wiped the group: me. I don't live in lala land and pretend I can never make mistakes and cause wipes in a raid. I failed the Allagan Field mechanic in O4S where it was fatal. Wiped the entire group and it was entirely my fault for forgetting what to do. In ExDeath also the Fire III mechanic me and my boyfriend (who is the other healer) have killed each other with the Fire III. Both healers dead and no one to raise them = no win scenario = wipe, and I caused it by forgetting not to move too early and end up too close to him during that mechanic. 100% my fault and my fault alone.

So no Hyomin is not an "E" just because she countered your claims and clarified they are false. Is that like the go to whenever someone comes across an argument they cannot find a way to counter or something? "Oh I have no idea how to counter their argument so I'll just call them elitist and tell them to grow up". Like...really???

Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
May want to stop cherry picking my posts and actually read/consider what i actually said.
No, you need to start listening to what others are telling you. More than three people now have been telling you what you are claiming is false. So yes, you do not know what you are talking about if you think that one player cannot cause a wipe by themselves. Even the O2S scenario I mentioned another poster told you about it already earlier in the thread, yet you conveniently ignored it. I wonder why you ignored it...hmm maybe because it quite obviously proves you are incorrect?


Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
Treating it like a job isn't necessarily meaning putting in long hours, though if you raid I really doubt raiders are putting in less than 15-20 on the game total per week, and maybe more. It means you view it in the same ways you view work and talk about it like work. Your concern is with performance, compensation, attendance, giving proper notice when leaving, relative status, and people not pulling their weight.
How can you make assumptions like this on how everyone views raiding? Just because I raid I must view it like work? Just because I play a certain amount of hours I must view it like work?

I raid and I do not treat it like a job. Some players in my static and past statics play less than 15-20 per week; including myself on some occasions.

How can you tell me what my concerns are just because I raid? I mean...can you read the minds of all the raiders in this game? I doubt it. Your generalizations are pointless.