Built-in Parsers

[RiyahArp]

I don't understand why skipping this shroud of scarcely protective obscurity so frightens so many players.

People don't want raiding culture to spread to the rest of the game. Raiders treat this game like a job, and the fun they get out of it is like the fun people get out of a job. But the negative aspects of raiding are similar to the negative aspects of a job. If that spreads to casual content, well, people who treat this game as something they do to relax and not something they do to work at in order to gain status won't be happy with the change.

[akaneakki]

Raiders treat this game like a job.

Speak for yourself please. I work 8 hours a day with 3 hours total after work spending at a place eating food and hitting gym. This is 5 times a week then you honestly think we treat it as a second job? Have you seen all the non raiders threating yoshida to unsub because they can't have a digital house? Have you seen all these threats when a glam they want is on chinese/korean client but they gonna say I will stop my sub now...?
Or the people who actually make 100000 pages of a digital butt on a character? I could go on all day but honestly most pro raiders have jobs too and also this is why most wouldn't even or couldnæt even go harder since they couldn't anymore due to work. You come in here and talk like you actually have done content that requires dps but you clearly havent and mostlikely wont in a long time. Stop making up things will ya. Yet to see people threating yoshida stop playing the game because there are no parser. The irony when anti parser talk about toxic acts hah.

[RiyahArp]

Speak for yourself please. I work 8 hours a day with 3 hours total after work spending at a place eating food and hitting gym. This is 5 times a week then you honestly think we treat it as a second job?

Treating it like a job isn't necessarily meaning putting in long hours, though if you raid I really doubt raiders are putting in less than 15-20 on the game total per week, and maybe more. It means you view it in the same ways you view work and talk about it like work. Your concern is with performance, compensation, attendance, giving proper notice when leaving, relative status, and people not pulling their weight. I mean, imagine a game of Monopoly where people talk about "Welfare free parking" or people slacking because they don't auction properties if the person landing on them doesn't buy them.

It's a change in mindset, and to be honest not a particularly good one.

[akaneakki]

It's a change in mindset, and to be honest not a particularly good one.

We all know FF14 is a heavy focused Pve game? Now let me explain this to you. You do PvE content, your duty is to kill the boss/trash adds etc right? What happens when you dont kill them? Do you lose or win? It's obvious, you lose. Your job to do these duties, especially in a big Pve focused game is to actually clear shit, not look around on sightseing or are we? About performence, again, this is a game where your goal is to win not to lose. Attendance,so what? No differnt than planning out a game night with your friends playing call of duty after work or something else no? It's a multiplayer game, youre supposed to play with others. Proper notice when leaving? Why not? Not like dc from my ps4 on my friend on cod or any other game without saying when I have to go or not. Relative status? what?????? And again, please explain why you try to argue about something you CLEARLY have NO clue about. I'm waiting.

May want to stop cherry picking my posts and actually read/consider what i actually said.

You keep saying you have a lot of MMO experience and there is no MMO a person could wipe the whole group or in case the 7(8) players in FF14 for example. You talked about people who are leading the games doesn't want parsers, yet we see them in gw2 and BnS. Your point again? You talk about you do content.... yet you have NO clue what you talk about. There are no mechanic that wipes an entire group? You talk about knowledge, when we clearly see you have none of it. Why are you trying to convience us when you barely can convience yourself you actually do content?

[Shurrikhan]

People don't want raiding culture to spread to the rest of the game. Raiders treat this game like a job, and the fun they get out of it is like the fun people get out of a job. But the negative aspects of raiding are similar to the negative aspects of a job. If that spreads to casual content, well, people who treat this game as something they do to relax and not something they do to work at in order to gain status won't be happy with the change.

What part of raiding culture?

Heck, which raiding culture?

There's a huge spectrum from committed progression groups to your average raider, to even your more casual raider beyond that.

The only commonality you'll find across all groups of raiders is that they find reason enough to raid for approximately as many hours as they do (some days seeming not quite worth it, and some days leaving them wanting more).

These are not some distinct set of players. Those who progress more quickly are usually spend more effective time raiding (this including the quality of said time, such as how logical their approach to the challenge is and how focused and free from or resistant to negatively-affecting stress they are during its execution), as with almost every task in life, but just as not all remote plane hobbyists are aeronautical engineers, not all raiders go about raiding like a profession, let alone experts therein.

[Baingoleth]

Since ACT can listen on any network interface, couldn't a PS4 user set up internet connection sharing on a windows computer, connect their PS4 through that computer and just run ACT that way? I don't have a PS4 but it's something a resourceful PS4 user might want to try.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

People don't want raiding culture to spread to the rest of the game. Raiders treat this game like a job, and the fun they get out of it is like the fun people get out of a job. But the negative aspects of raiding are similar to the negative aspects of a job. If that spreads to casual content, well, people who treat this game as something they do to relax and not something they do to work at in order to gain status won't be happy with the change.

Suppose the Monk is my group is auditioning for American Idol then because he's randomly broken into song for no reason except to be funny. Our Bard worn her pig outfit she called "my outfit of shame!" Do we have serious moments or argue amongst ourselves? Absolutely. We still treat raiding as a fun activity even when we dispense the memes and push for clears. Would you fancy I call all non-raiders casuals who just suck at the game? Is that a fair generalization of players who may simply not find Savage fun? It's no different than lumping all raiders under the umbrella of elitism either.

you got stuff to back up your statement? proof im false cuz all I see is "what ifs" you not giving full details to your hyperbole.

I repeat, since you apparently missed my example.

Story time!

Just the other night during our weeklies clears, I misread my buffs in Neo and Elusive Jumped with Allagan Field thinking it was Acceleration Bomb + Unbalance. The result was my death by flipping off the platform. This triggers Allagan immediately, spending a massive high damaging shockwave across the entire raid. Now, do explain how the healers, tanks or three other DPS are at fault for my mistake. I suppose our Scholar should've had telepathy and known to Rescue in that precise moment so I wouldn't fall off right?

never in mmo is 1 person at fault for 8 ppl dying. everyone has their fair share in the blame, no matter what "examples" you try to use, you are missing details on how/why that even happen. just pointing out the end result.

This is categorically false. Even in dungeons, one person can easily cause a wipe. Just this morning I had a healer who perpetually left my health at near critical levels. I'm on Dark Knight and properly rotating my CDs. What more can I do if I'm flat out not getting healed?

I mean, let's take this nonsense to its logical extreme. By your statement, I could straight up not heal you on White Mage and you still share in the blame for your inevitable death. That makes absolutely no sense.

[BigRed5392]

I mean, let's take this nonsense to its logical extreme. By your statement, I could straight up not heal you on White Mage and you still share in the blame for your inevitable death. That makes absolutely no sense.

Yes i do share the blame as I didn't call you on it, nor made any effort to kick you.

I hope you see where I was going with my statements now.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Yes i do share the blame as I didn't call you on it, nor made any effort to kick you.

I hope you see where I was going with my statements now.

That... makes no sense. You're not sharing in the blame by not calling me out. No one expects absolute perfection 100% of the time. At this point, you either grossly misunderstand how accountability works or you just want to pat yourself on the back and claim how nice a guy you are for not instantly kicking or calling out

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

No one expects absolute perfection 100% of the time.

Blasphemer! Don't you know parsers and the raiding community are powered by perfection? How dare you!?

/s