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    Quote Originally Posted by Deithwen View Post
    But having to make extra effort to acheive the same isn't the very definition of disadvantage ?
    Is the effort really that extra? I don't recall working any harder to learn content than anyone else. That "extra" work was the practice I put in, and the time I personally put into making sure I can play my job well, regardless of the content. PC players, parser or not, have done the same thing and the ones that wanted to play well very likely put in the same effort, wouldn't you agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nezia View Post
    And that's what a disadvantage is. Can a bare handed person defeat someone with a gun? Definitely! You only need to spend 15+ years studying martial arts in order to defeat someone who picked up a gun 15 minutes ago.

    Of course this is a completely hyperbolic example, but the fact remains the same, I have acess to a tool that you don't, this simple fact puts me in an advantage. Can you work around it? Sure you can, but you still worked around a disadvantage.
    By this logic, I should never outperform anyone with access to a parser, right? And yet I have before. So what made the difference? Personal effort and skill, or the tool? Once again, there's nothing wrong with having the tool, but it's pretty well established that a good craftsman can produce good work whether his tools are top of the line or not. If you choose to look at being on console as not having top of the line tools, that's fine. I'm simply saying I (and again I suppose I should only speak for myself) have never been disadvantaged for not having a parser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    By this logic, I should never outperform anyone with access to a parser, right?
    Now now... It's surprising how you ask something like this when I literally wrote:

    Can a bare handed person defeat someone with a gun? Definitely!
    And

    Can you work around it? Sure you can
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezia View Post
    Now now... It's surprising how you ask something like this
    And yet you claim disadvantage despite me saying (and you essentially not disagreeing) "anyone who makes the effort can do it."

    I mean, we can nitpick, but we're both not likely to get anywhere. I stand by what I said regardless.
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