Built-in Parsers

[MoroMurasaki]

Not sure why you think we anti-parsers are saying you have to carry slackers. We aren't.

Also, we all understand the FFXIV community isn't a bunch of saints. It's a case where people cannot agree if the benefits of having a parser outweigh the negative impact of having them on the game as a whole.

I feel like this (the carrying comment) is being implied by some people on the anti-parser side of things though. Specifically the idea that if a group fails something it is by default the entire group's fault.

There are certainly many ways that one person can wipe almost any given raid, whether intentional or not, and this mentality that just because I've been grouped up with someone who doesn't know/care/care to learn enough to clear a specific piece of content means I am responsible for their shortcomings is where at least some of this tension is coming from.

Let me be clear, I have said multiple times in this forum and on the healer forums that I play healers primarily because of their ability to carry a poor group/player through most content. I pride myself on being able to salvage things that otherwise would have been a death or wipe. I am not looking for parsers in an effort to kick tons of players from my groups. It would certainly allow myself (or any reasonably experienced player) more insight into what's going on, specifically in a situation where things are going south quickly, to be able to better advise our teammates on how they can help us fix it.

Would the answer sometimes be to kick someone? I'm sure it would, but if that turns a disband into a clear for the rest of us I am okay with it.

I feel like this has gone from a discussion on parsers to one on the general health and kindness of the community, on that front I think we do pretty well for ourselves. Are there some assholes? Sure. Most people want to help though. Keeling parsers out of the game out of fear someone might use them to be rude makes no more sense than removing party chat because someone might be rude there. Yes, sure, they might... but doesn't it do vastly more good than harm?