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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    Taika asked genuine questions and Disappoint responded in a childish manner.
    Loaded questions that don't offer insight of the topic at hand are far from genuine. Really not helping your case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disappoint View Post
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    Accosted? She asked if you were doing the content that players partaking in that content are seeking parsers for. She then asked what experience you had with it and if not how it would impact you. Those are valid questions with no hint of aggression in them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disappoint View Post
    Loaded questions that don't offer insight of the topic at hand are far from genuine. Really not helping your case.
    But your vague comment on gearscore, achievements and meters in WoW causing toxicity with no elaboration when requested is genuine and insightful?
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  4. #304
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscura View Post
    I get that you are anti-parsing
    I never once have said I'm anti-parsing. I do want an official in-game parser. It would be awesome. 3rd party parsers are notorious for not seeing everything.

    What I don't care for is the dishonesty about their actual usage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconMoore View Post
    I never once have said I'm anti-parsing. I do want an official in-game parser. It would be awesome. 3rd party parsers are notorious for not seeing everything.

    What I don't care for is the dishonesty about their actual usage.
    Well I'm sorry for making assumptions, then.

    However, there is nothing dishonest about saying specifically what one would use it for personally though. There is also nothing dishonest about what one thinks it would be used for. There are just as many people who recall from WoW, apparently the only example in the world, both parsers being used in a "toxic" manner and those who remember it going over pretty smoothly. It all depends on who you ask.

    Like when you said that using parsers in battle is only to kick people or judge people. For me, that's not true. I specifically do it to improve how I play the game and determine weaker points in the fight for myself, and nothing more. Then I attempt to improve. I just do not care enough about other people to make a fuss about them. They are irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    But your vague comment on gearscore, achievements and meters in WoW causing toxicity with no elaboration when requested is genuine and insightful?
    I see no request for such elaborations. Rather, I see questions aimed at myself based on what content I take on and how a parser might effect me personally. There's no need to be disingenuous, anyone with eyes can see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disappoint View Post
    I see no request for such elaborations. Rather, I see questions aimed at myself based on what content I take on and how a parser might effect me personally. There's no need to be disingenuous, anyone with eyes can see.
    To say that you see no request for elaborations from Taika shows that you are the one being disingenuous here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscura View Post
    Well I'm sorry for making assumptions, then.

    However, there is nothing dishonest about saying specifically what one would use it for personally though. There is also nothing dishonest about what one thinks it would be used for. There are just as many people who recall from WoW, apparently the only example in the world, both parsers being used in a "toxic" manner and those who remember it going over pretty smoothly. It all depends on who you ask.

    Like when you said that using parsers in battle is only to kick people or judge people. For me, that's not true. I specifically do it to improve how I play the game and determine weaker points in the fight for myself, and nothing more. Then I attempt to improve. I just do not care enough about other people to make a fuss about them. They are irrelevant.
    Anyone telling you that parsers in their experience was only ever a smooth experience is either lying or didn't play that much of the game with parsers.

    For you then I have to ask why you really feel the need for a parser in the fight? You should know intuitively when you mess up during the fight. I know from my own experiences for example my dps just went in the crapper after I popped my burst cooldowns and then am forced to immediately run or die. A parser isn't needed for that. Something like deadly boss mods that can give you timers and warnings about fight phase changes is what will really help you plan your ability usage and maximize your dps in the fight. All the parser would do for you is confirm what you should already know. Is this absolutely something that you need?

    So, sorry, but yes, group parsers in fights are absolutely for making judgments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconMoore View Post
    Anyone telling you that parsers in their experience was only ever a smooth experience is either lying or didn't play that much of the game with parsers.

    For you then I have to ask why you really feel the need for a parser in the fight? You should know intuitively when you mess up during the fight. I know from my own experiences for example my dps just went in the crapper after I popped my burst cooldowns and then am forced to immediately run or die. A parser isn't needed for that. Something like deadly boss mods that can give you timers and warnings about fight phase changes is what will really help you plan your ability usage and maximize your dps in the fight. All the parser would do for you is confirm what you should already know. Is this absolutely something that you need?

    So, sorry, but yes, group parsers in fights are absolutely for making judgments.
    Okay. If you are willingly going to be close-minded then there's nothing more I can say to you. As for your question about "feeling the need," there is no need for anything. It is purely a desire. One can never argue about the need for a parser the same way one can't argue there is a need for housing. It is optional, and ultimately only a desire.

    Everything you have stated is purely opinion, so please stop stating it as fact. "You should," "my own experiences," "confirm what you should already know," etc. All of these are 100% subjective and personal statements. There is nothing factual or even objective there. I do not need to justify myself to you and simultaneously my experiences are, quite clearly, completely different from yours.

    Group parsers are not for "absolutely" making judgments, however, in your mind, they absolutely are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    What's worse is it seems you can't fathom people not being like you.
    Welcome to Earth, where 0.0000001%(or less) of people can understand others have different points of view(not saying you don't...but you know, most people think everyone HAS to think exactly like them).
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