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    NintenPyjak64's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Evercy Warclan
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    my question would be what is the healer doing if a rdm is having to self cure (if that is what your going by) why is the rdm dying?
    Ticks of Briar damage, having the AoE Spellblade Holy and getting clipped by a tank, not breaking vines fast enough, Not running out of the elemental spellblades fast enough. There's a plethora of things can can kill or severely damage you (Especially SB:Blizzard if the healers are even a little late to cure). They could panic and try to cure themselves without waiting for a healer to throw a cure, like how a DPS would use Second Wind but as a GCD ability

    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    You left out how advice was given, was it rude and unsolicited? or was it offered to the rdm as a choice?
    Ofc unsolicited, but let's say it's advice about the mechanics of the fight to address why they're dying or taking unnecessary damage. Ofc the entire party is seeing they're doing the mechanics poorly, and just want to advance to the stage the party was created for, giving advice to the person wouldn't make them embarrassed as they're likely ALREADY embarrassed because people noticed they made these mistakes

    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    saying "your doing it wrong" is the worst way to tell a person to improve, ask to give them advice/tips. Offer some links to videos if that is how they learn.
    With this I go back to my own post on the matter:

    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    You and other party members offer advice but it falls on deaf ears
    How can you know the other person learns from videos if the advice in the first place is falling on deaf ears?

    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    no parser needed, just be a good person.
    Since the start of the game I've always sugarcoated advice I've given. I've never given advice in a rude way, yet no matter what, it's ALWAYS interpreted as rude. I've gotten to the point where I just don't offer advice anymore, to the point where I don't care

    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    If that isn't good, party up with people you know only.
    I already try to do this to prevent running into players as such (see above response as to why), but there've been times where my static has needed to pug, only to be held back severely because of an outleir. It could be greedy DPS healers (NOT SAYING ALL HEALERS WHO DPS ARE GREEDY, I MEAN WHEN THEY CAST A DPS SPELL WHEN THEY SHOULD BE CASTING A CURE), it could be poor DPS making us fail checks, it could be tanks who can't hold hate on adds, I've seen it all

    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    Like i said how you think mmo players go by before third party tools existed?
    Looking at FFXI, Vanilla WoW and Runescape (the only old school MMOs I have knowledge of), simplified damage rotations where a parser ofc wouldn't be needed. Creating max damage now a days is without a doubt way more complicated then it was back then, combat is much MUCH faster paced. Ofc third party tools weren't needed back then, but as rotations became more indepth, tools needed to be created to benefit. Sadly the "toxic" players took the tool and abused it, think hurting somebody with a hammer when it was made for pounding nails into wood.

    I'll just say this for the record: I hate kicking people. It always makes me feel like shit after, but the biggest "redemption" I feel from it is that I'm benefiting the 6 other people. I'll care more about the team as a whole then a person individually. My static is made almost entirely of friends, people I know who won't get angry when I tell them they suck (joking or not). But I'll actively help them knowing that they could use the advice and will be receptive of it. I even go the extra mile and suffer with them at training dummies or dungeons, and they'll do the same for me if I'm learning a new class
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    Last edited by NintenPyjak64; 10-29-2017 at 01:43 PM. Reason: Fixed run-ons, punctuation