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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyKairi View Post
    Deliberately my butt. I was talking bout simple everyday tools like hammers, shovels or kitchen cutlery that everyone everywhere use and don't have regulations. Things that aren't super controversial. When I think tools, my mind doesn't automatically go to guns. The word 'tool' can be many many things.
    needed tools vs unneeded tools.

    no one needs a parser to get better. People choose to use it. Whst do you think old school mmo people did before third party tools became a thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    I'd like to ask a hypothetical question to the anti-parser people

    You're doing O3S, you have a NIN, MNK, RDM and MCH for DPS, and you fail a DPS check 3 times in a row (ignoring tank and healer DPS, let's say it's the White Flame). Somebody you're playing with is running ACT and notices the RDM has considerably lower DPS and higher HPS then usual, and are the only person who has 1 or 2 deaths per attempt. Checking the abilities used shows the RDM is frequently casting Vercure, Jolt 2 (while procs are available) And unenchanted melee attacks.

    You and other party members offer advice but it falls on deaf ears. Another failed DPS check and people are starting to get angry

    You are the party leader of this team, what would you do? What do you think is fair? Does the RDM's enjoyment of how they play justify the growing frustration of the other party members?

    EDIT: The party is a late phase learning party or a weekly kill party. NOT a fresh learning party

    my question would be what is the healer doing if a rdm is having to self cure (if that is what your going by) why is the rdm dying? You leave a lot of details out. Remember content is a GROUP thing. Everyone in the GROUP is responsable if things go south.
    You left out how advice was given, was it rude and unsolicited? or was it offered to the rdm as a choice?

    if you single out 1 person because of a tool (that has a margin of error) of 8 and claiming fault, can cause problems for that 1 person who will get embarrassed and perform worst.

    The rdm wouldn't need to heal if the healers were healing. Rdm wouldn't die if the healers were healing.

    Why not after 3 wipes you vote abandon and talk to the rdm 1 on 1, see what the issues were. saying "your doing it wrong" is the worst way to tell a person to improve, ask to give them advice/tips. Offer some links to videos if that is how they learn.

    no parser needed, just be a good person.

    If that isn't good, party up with people you know only.

    Like i said how you think mmo players go by before third party tools existed?
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    Last edited by BigRed5392; 10-29-2017 at 01:32 PM. Reason: typos